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    The 5 track LP

    It is a killer, my favourite LP format. When it's 5, you know that most likely it's going to be PROG. Two 10mins and three 6+something. Or one side long mothereffin prog monster and 4 good little songs. I was thinking of King Crimson debut, Foxtrot, and this incredible and no less of an album that Island's Pictures is (I was listening this morning). Which is a cheat: one intro, one 6 minutes, and 3 biggies.

    So give me your 5 track LPs that you like.

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    #1 is Zappa: The Grand Wazoo

    King Crimson: Red
    Banco del Mutuo Soccorso: Io Sono Nato Libero
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    Grateful Dead: Anthem Of The Sun (if you count the entire That's It For The Other One suite as a single track).

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    Invisible - Durazno Sangrando
    Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico and L'Isola di Niente
    Änglagård - Epilog (vinyl version)
    Dick Clayderman - Inkredipel Impossipel Sympho-Lympho Bonanza Ekstravaganza Mombasa Bokassa Madrasa-Harassa
    Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning
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    ok I'll be that guy. the Rubinoos party of 2 mini album. 5 short power popy tunes in their style produced by todd rundgren and utopia. nothing earth shattering but I always enjoyed it a good deal.

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    Jarre, Les Chants Magnétiques

    Poppier somewhat than its two predecessors, but opens with a side-long track, with 4 tracks on side 2.

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    Camel - Mirage
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    Tony Banks - Five
    King Crimson - Lizard (if you count side 2 'Lizard' as one piece)

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    Personally.... I'm into 8-tracks.

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    Miles Davis - Filles de Kilimanjaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill g View Post
    King Crimson - Lizard (if you count side 2 'Lizard' as one piece)
    Why wouldn't you? It's only divided into all those subsections for publishing/royalty reasons, same reason all of those complicated multi-part titles you saw on all the prog records, going all the way back to Anthem Of The Sun and Uncle Meat. You get publishing royalties (and back in the day, possibly performance royalties) based on the number of tracks that were on the record. If you only had 5 or 6 tracks on your record, because one or more were "unusually" long, you got paid for five or six tracks. A record like Close To The Edge, without the subsections on Close To The Edge itself and And You And I, the members of Yes would have been paid for three tracks.

    But if you subdivided your long track into several subsections, each subsection, technically constituted a separate track, so far as publishing was concerned. Close To The Edge then goes from having just three tracks on it to having 11, and the songwriters (and maybe the band as a whole) got paid accordingly.

    I first found out about this because I read a book about the Grateful Dead back in the 80's, where they explained that's why they did it with That's It For The Other One on Anthem Of The Sun (though I think the first section was already known as Cryptical Envelopment, because that was the name Jerry had given it when he brought it to the band). I then theorized that's why Zappa subdivided the Uncle Meat version of King Kong, also why the respective Yes, ELP, King CRimson, etc tracks were subdivided.

    Later in the 90's, I got the King Crimson The Great Deceiver box, and somewhere in the booklet contained therein (I think in one of the reprinted articles), Fripp confirmed that all those convoluted song titles on the first four Crimson albums were for squeeze out more publishing revenue.

    I recall reading that Miles Davis, back in the 60's, had renegotiated his contract with CBS so that he would get paid based on the length of the tracks on his albums, so that he could have longer pieces on a given album. The Grateful Dead, I once read, were reputedly the first rock group to have a similar clause added to their contracts. You'll notice that eventually, Yes, King Crimson, ELP, and Genesis stopped subdividing their long tracks too, so I suspect they must have also had similar language placed in their contracts. Or maybe they were just tired of coming up with pretentious "movement" titles.
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    Alan Parson's "Turn of a Friendly Card" comes awfully close at 6 tracks!

    Same with Floyd's Meddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Why wouldn't you? It's only divided into all those subsections for publishing/royalty reasons
    "Lizard" is different, however, as the four individual songs were numbered 1-4 on the LP label and shown as separate songs with individual timings on the cover. Yes, the whole side had an overall suite title, but so did the sides of, for example, Aqualung, and no one says that album has only two songs. Fripp/Sinfield did still pad the title count with "including" subtitles, as they had on the previous two albums, but it was "Battle of the Glass Tears" that appeared as a main title stuffed with "includings," not "Lizard." ("Cirkus" on side one also got an "including.")

    On the other hand, the individual tracks were not banded on the LP, and of course in the CD age "Lizard" gets tracked as a single song. Still, the way it was presented on the original release was pretty clearly as four songs.
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    CHEER-ACCIDENT - Salad Days

    my favorite album of theirs

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    Not counting bonus tracks for reissues:

    1. Atlas: Blå Vardag
    2. Banzaï: Hora Nata
    3. Biglietto per l’Inferno: Biglietto per l’Inferno
    4. Camel: Mirage
    5. Circus: Movin’ On
    6. Corte dei Miracoli: Corte dei Miracoli
    7. Dragonfly: Dragonfly
    8. Ekseption: Mindmirror
    9. The Enid: Aerie Faerie Nonsense
    10. Faithful Breath: Back on My Hill
    11. Flash: In the Can
    12. Gracious: Gracious!
    13. Harmonium: Les cinq saisons
    14. Hoelderlin: Hoelderlin
    15. H2O: Due
    16. IQ: Tales From the Lush Attic
    17. IQ: Dark Matter
    18. Ivory: Sad Cypress
    19. Latte e Miele: Aquile e scoiattoli
    20. Magma: Canto para una consagración
    21. Mahavishnu Orchestra: Apocalypse
    22. Marsupilami: Marsupilami
    23. Mirthrandir: For You the Old Women
    24. National Health: National Health
    25. Novalis: Novalis
    26. Pekka Pohjola: Keesojen lehto
    27. Pekka Pohjola: Space Waltz
    28. Pekka Pohjola: Flight of the Angel
    29. Popol Vuh: Aguirre
    30. Quella Vecchia Locanda: Il tempo della gioia
    31. Rare Bird: As Your Mind Flies By
    32. Renaissance: Novella
    33. Ruphus: Ranshart
    34. SFF: Symphonic Pictures
    35. Chris Squire: Fish Out of Water
    36. Stern-Combo Meissen: Stern-Combo Meissen
    37. Stern Meissen: Reise zum Mittelpunkt des Menschen
    38. Synergy: Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra
    39. Tiemko: Océan
    40. Twenty Sixty Six and Then: Reflections on the Future
    41. Univers Zéro: UZED
    42. Welcome: Welcome
    43. Zombi: Surface to Air
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progbear View Post
    Not counting bonus tracks for reissues:

    1. Atlas: Blå Vardag
    2. Banzaï: Hora Nata
    3. Biglietto per l’Inferno: Biglietto per l’Inferno
    4. Camel: Mirage
    5. Circus: Movin’ On
    6. Corte dei Miracoli: Corte dei Miracoli
    7. Dragonfly: Dragonfly
    8. Ekseption: Mindmirror
    9. The Enid: Aerie Faerie Nonsense
    10. Faithful Breath: Back on My Hill
    11. Flash: In the Can
    12. Gracious: Gracious!
    13. Harmonium: Les cinq saisons
    14. Hoelderlin: Hoelderlin
    15. H2O: Due
    16. IQ: Tales From the Lush Attic
    17. IQ: Dark Matter
    18. Ivory: Sad Cypress
    19. Latte e Miele: Aquile e scoiattoli
    20. Magma: Canto para una consagración
    21. Mahavishnu Orchestra: Apocalypse
    22. Marsupilami: Marsupilami
    23. Mirthrandir: For You the Old Women
    24. National Health: National Health
    25. Novalis: Novalis
    26. Pekka Pohjola: Keesojen lehto
    27. Pekka Pohjola: Space Waltz
    28. Pekka Pohjola: Flight of the Angel
    29. Popol Vuh: Aguirre
    30. Quella Vecchia Locanda: Il tempo della gioia
    31. Rare Bird: As Your Mind Flies By
    32. Renaissance: Novella
    33. Ruphus: Ranshart
    34. SFF: Symphonic Pictures
    35. Chris Squire: Fish Out of Water
    36. Stern-Combo Meissen: Stern-Combo Meissen
    37. Stern Meissen: Reise zum Mittelpunkt des Menschen
    38. Synergy: Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra
    39. Tiemko: Océan
    40. Twenty Sixty Six and Then: Reflections on the Future
    41. Univers Zéro: UZED
    42. Welcome: Welcome
    43. Zombi: Surface to Air
    So these are your 43 favorites? Did you have to weed a lot out?

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    Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico and L'Isola di Niente
    Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - As Falls Wichita, so Falls Wichita Falls
    Pink Floyd - Animals
    Genesis - Foxtrot (Although this may be cheating, I consider "Horizons" to be an intro to "Supper's Ready" )
    King Crimson - Lizard


    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico and L'Isola di Niente
    Per Un Amico was the first album that came to my mind when I read the OP actually. L'Isola is certainly no slouch either. Both records are magical, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Per Un Amico was the first album that came to my mind when I read the OP actually. L'Isola is certainly no slouch either. Both records are magical, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico and L'Isola di Niente
    Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - As Falls Wichita, so Falls Wichita Falls
    Pink Floyd - Animals
    Genesis - Foxtrot (Although this may be cheating, I consider "Horizons" to be an intro to "Supper's Ready" )
    King Crimson - Lizard




    Per Un Amico was the first album that came to my mind when I read the OP actually. L'Isola is certainly no slouch either. Both records are magical, IMO.
    I just listened to this last night. Forgot how great it is!!!
    But the correct answer is Going For The One. Or Per Un Amico.
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    Some great choices there: the two PFM, the two VDGG, Henry Cow, Uzed, Nektar.

    Here's another one: Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Not Clayderman?


    Well, to be fair it was a tossup.

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