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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Glenday View Post
    ^^^ That's fantastic!!!
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    Liam Lawson is replacing Danny Ric for the remainder of the season to see what he can do, possibly replacing Perez for next year:

    Liam Lawson gets F1 chance
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    The Facebook page, This is Formula 1, posted this yesterday:

    – Andretti Global is pushing forward with its Formula 1 program, despite Liberty Media’s veto. The team is on track to produce its first chassis for the 2026 regulatory framework by the end of this year. The team currently has a workforce of around 250 F1-specific employees, excluding ancillary workers. This includes high-profile members like former F1 technical director Pat Symonds.

    – The team recently opened a new European headquarters in Silverstone. On the power unit side, GM’s executive director of motorsports, Eric Warren, stated in September: “On the F1 side, we’ve been working on it for two years. We’re intensively developing a power unit and the car. We’re committed to being there. One way or another, we’ll be there.”

    – Despite the FOA’s rejection, everything is progressing smoothly. There is also hope that the ongoing U.S. congressional proceedings against Liberty Media might present an opportunity for Andretti and GM to secure their place on the grid.

    I hope it works out. Otherwise, Andretti Global has wasted a shit-ton of money.
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    I also really hope it works out.

    However Michael Andretti was the main motivating force behind the effort, and he's now been pushed out of the organization. I read that as a scale-back of their effort.

    Perhaps that news release is to quell skeptics like me
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    Oh shit. Just ran across this on Wikipedia:

    In October 2024, Michael Andretti resigned from his position as CEO of Andretti Global, although he will continue to play a role in the company as a strategic advisor while a search for his successor is initiated.

    Damn.

    It appears he's still half owner, tho.

    McLaren and Alpine have both shown support for AG, as has FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem.

    I wonder if this might have something to do with others being resistant to letting AG in:

    In total, [Andretti Autosport] has won the Indianapolis 500 six times, the CART championship once, and the IndyCar Series championship four times. The team has won the Indy Lights championship five times.

    Andretti Global competes in Formula E since the series' formation, winning the 2022–23 driver's championship with Jake Dennis. (Wikipedia)
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    I just may have to get one of these F1 calendars.

    They measure 10" wide by 5½" tall.

    There are two kinds and each has their advantage.

    #1:




    #2:




    There are other pictures, too, to help you decide. Or you could get one of each.
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    That is pretty cool.
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    Sometimes it's a little hard to figure out where the apex of a corner is when just watching a race, even if the camera shot is from a distance.

    I found this graphic that shows how the apex is determined, based on the kind of corner one may be driving through, and thought it was interesting, clearing up some of my confusion:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    Sometimes it's a little hard to figure out where the apex of a corner is when just watching a race, even if the camera shot is from a distance.

    I found this graphic that shows how the apex is determined, based on the kind of corner one may be driving through, and thought it was interesting, clearing up some of my confusion:


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    Effin awesome

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    That is brilliant, I wasn’t expecting the last panel, but it is so spot on

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    To be fair, I've noticed a lot of drivers, this season, in violation of these rules:

    F1 sporting regulations on passing in a corner. Some of the rules for passing in a corner include:

    Overtaking on the inside of a corner

    The overtaking driver's front axle must be alongside the other car's mirror by the apex of the corner. The overtaking maneuver must be safe and controlled, and the car being overtaken must be able to make the corner within track limits.

    Overtaking on the outside of a corner

    If the defending car is at least half a car length ahead at the apex, the attacking driver is not entitled to space through the rest of the corner.

    Moving back to the racing line

    If a driver moves back to the racing line after defending their position off-line, they must leave at least one car width between their car and the track edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    To be fair, I've noticed a lot of drivers, this season, in violation of these rules:

    F1 sporting regulations on passing in a corner. Some of the rules for passing in a corner include:

    Overtaking on the inside of a corner

    The overtaking driver's front axle must be alongside the other car's mirror by the apex of the corner. The overtaking maneuver must be safe and controlled, and the car being overtaken must be able to make the corner within track limits.

    Overtaking on the outside of a corner

    If the defending car is at least half a car length ahead at the apex, the attacking driver is not entitled to space through the rest of the corner.

    Moving back to the racing line

    If a driver moves back to the racing line after defending their position off-line, they must leave at least one car width between their car and the track edge.
    Here's my dilemma:

    • On the one hand, they're re-working the design of cars again and again, to increase the ability to overtake. (Creation of DRS, the current aero requirements, the 2026 modifications - are ALL designed to improve overtaking.)
    • On the other hand, the rules are becoming increasingly restrictive, and seem to be doing anything possible to prevent competitive overtaking.


    Yes, I understand there need to be restrictions - but exactly where should the line be drawn? (I'm SO happy when the stewards let an incident go as a "racing incident".)
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    ^ Yeah, I would prefer there to be more allowing overtaking, even if it is a slightly dangerous move, if for nothing else for the improvement of the product as a whole. And the track limits thing I think needs a rethink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo Chang Ba View Post
    And the track limits thing I think needs a rethink.
    On that we disagree.

    The track is the track. Going off of it should not be an option.

    Runoff areas were added to increase safety. Fine. Keep them.

    But if I had my way, curbs would be eliminated and the runoff area would not go right up to the track. I'd put a strip of grass or dirt (at least as wide as a car) between the track and the runoff area.

    Then you'd see the cream rise to the top.

    BTW, look at this picture:



    In case anyone's wondering, that's Clark, Stewart, Hill, and Gurney, from 1st to 4th, at Monza, 1965. Clark went out with a failed fuel pump on lap 64. The podium was Stewart, Hill, and Gurney, in that order.

    But look closely. The grass goes right up to the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Glenday View Post
    Here's my dilemma:

    • On the one hand, they're re-working the design of cars again and again, to increase the ability to overtake. (Creation of DRS, the current aero requirements, the 2026 modifications - are ALL designed to improve overtaking.)
    • On the other hand, the rules are becoming increasingly restrictive, and seem to be doing anything possible to prevent competitive overtaking.


    Yes, I understand there need to be restrictions - but exactly where should the line be drawn? (I'm SO happy when the stewards let an incident go as a "racing incident".)
    While I only play a faux expert on a prog forum talking things I know nothing about;

    I do think some of the passing issues are the tracks itself and perhaps too restrictive in some aspects.

    Since some of that is also impossible to alter, maybe some of the punitive rules-thinking stem from that even as tech moves forward



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    What a cluster!! at the start of this race! And it hasn't even started yet! :-O

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    It's even crazier! And only on Lap 29!

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    What a whacky race weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Glenday View Post
    What a whacky race weekend!
    From the threat of no qualifying at all; to the Benny Hill esque formation lap kerfuffle; the unfortunate pit timing for McLaren; and the best day (and subsequent $$$$) for Alpine in a long long while.

    So yes Duncan. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    When Verstappen is good he's very good.
    True.

    And sadly, I think Hamilton has lost it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Glenday View Post
    True.

    And sadly, I think Hamilton has lost it
    Do you think Hamilton has a "No Backsies" clause in his new contract? ;-)

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    Norris was right in his appraisal, Verstappen was lucky with the red flag and the free tyre change, but McLaren made a bad call to switch his tyres just before that incident.

    I will reserve judgement on Lewis until we see him in the Ferrari. I think he has lost it with the Mercedes, and has no desire to drive on the edge in a car that isn't working with him, and for the low points, he needs a new challenge. At least I hope he will be back to his old self when he has a new incentive.

    Crazy arsed weekend though, that qualifying session was insane.

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