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    Messthetics - DC power trio with pedigree

    The great rhythm section of DC's legendary Fugazi meets up with one of the greatest up 'n' coming guitarists working today in the new group The Messthetics.

    and for a week,you can hear the entire thing here.
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    But....but.....but.....that's not Prog!

    Actually, it is, of a sort. Good stuff, and Anthony is one monster guitarist. Did he really do all that without overdubs? And Joe + Brendan lay a mighty foundation under him - they could maybe challenge him a little more rhythmically, and in particular harmonically. But they're rock guys, not jazz guys, laying one hell of a solid foundation is what they do, and they do it very well.

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    Anthony is a master looper. Master.
    Was it all done without overdubs? I don’t know.

    But I’ve seen them and they more than pull it off live.
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    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

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    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    Sweetness - must hear more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post

    Actually, it is, of a sort. Good stuff, and Anthony is one monster guitarist. Did he really do all that without overdubs?
    I just re-listened at home; there is NOTHING on this album that I haven’t seen Anthony do live on many occasions. Yes. He is a MONSTER.
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    Listened to it today, pretty much presses all the buttons I want from a modern fusion trio. Excellent stuff.
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    I *really* like the "otherworldliness" (for lack of a better word) of "Once Upon A Time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravedigger View Post
    I *really* like the "otherworldliness" (for lack of a better word) of "Once Upon A Time".
    Check out the Janel & Anthony album; the entire thing is mostly 'otherworldliness'....
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    ^ Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    Check out the Janel & Anthony album; the entire thing is mostly 'otherworldliness'....
    That's a wonderful album
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    But....but.....but.....that's not Prog!

    Actually, it is, of a sort. Good stuff, and Anthony is one monster guitarist. Did he really do all that without overdubs? And Joe + Brendan lay a mighty foundation under him - they could maybe challenge him a little more rhythmically, and in particular harmonically. But they're rock guys, not jazz guys, laying one hell of a solid foundation is what they do, and they do it very well.
    I would agree with this. This was most prominent in the first song and last song (although the ending song is pretty low key so I suppose it wasn't meant to be challenging rhythmically). But overall not too bad in this regard. I suppose this is really all about the guitar as well. And damn...the guitar is boss mostly all the way through. Probably will buy.
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    Wayside has it.Pounce.
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    Gonna have to grab this soon.
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    This is very-very good. It's not Prog, it's Pirog!

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    Just ordered the vinyl - so no more sneaking in bandcamp. It's a serious ass-bruiser.

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    Glad to see everyone digging this. Anthony has some more interesting releases coming up towards the end of this year and into 2019.
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    I love Fugazi!!! This I need to hear!!!
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    Here's some gigs! A band well worth seeing!

    APR 05
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    Saturn - Birmingham, AL

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    Cat's Cradle - Carrboro, NC

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    Black Cat - Washington, DC

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    The Outer Space - Hamden, CT

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    The Bell House - Brooklyn, NY

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    Survival Kit Gallery - Cleveland, OH

    MAY 05
    Hideout - Chicago, IL

    MAY 08
    Zanzabar - Louisville, KY

    MAY 09
    Ace of Cups - Columbus, OH

    MAY 14
    Strange Matter - Richmond, VA
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    I checked this out. The guitarist is one creative guy and a great player. The rhythym secction is pretty basic. They lay down a repetitive groove and let Anthony Pirog add all the color. I'd like it more if the rhythym section was busier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplyrjvb View Post
    I checked this out. The guitarist is one creative guy and a great player. The rhythym secction is pretty basic. They lay down a repetitive groove and let Anthony Pirog add all the color. I'd like it more if the rhythym section was busier.
    I agree. But, they're rock guys, and playing basic is what they do. Yes, Fugazi apparently used to sometimes improvise onstage, so they do have experience in improvised music. But I would guess that they played in a similar fashion back then, if only because that does usually work in a rock context. And, because even though Anthony Pirog could certainly deal with the rhythm section throwing in changes, Ian McKaye and Guy Picciotto (the guitarists in Fugazi) might have had trouble with that.

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    I forgot to post this and missed a few dates, but there are still a lot of shows for interested folks to see:

    4.13.18 - Washington, D.C. @ Black Cat
    4.19.18 - Hamden, CT @ Space Ballroom
    4.20.18 - Brooklyn, NY @ Bell House
    4.21.18 - Kingston, NY @ BSP
    5.2.18 - Pittsburgh, PA @ Spirit Lodge
    5.3.18 - Cleveland, OH @ Survival Kit
    5.4.18 - Detroit, MI @ Planet Ant Theater
    5.5.18 - Chicago, IL @ The Hideout
    5.6.18 - Milwaukee, WI @ Cactus Club
    5.7.18 - Bloomington, IL @ Nightshop
    5.8.18 - Louisville, KY @ Zanzibar
    5.9.18 - Columbus, OH @ Ace of Cups
    5.14.18 - Richmond, VA @ Strange Matter
    5.17.18 - East Hampton, MA @ Flywheel Arts Collective
    5.18.18 - Montreal, QC @ Santa Teresa Festival
    5.19.18 - Portland, ME @ Space Gallery
    5.20.18 - Asbury Park, NJ @ Asbury Park Yacht Club
    5.25 - Tokyo, JP @ Fever
    5.27 - Sapporo, JP @ Sound Lab Mole
    5.30 - Nara, JP @ Neverland
    5.31 - Osaka, JP @ Pangea
    6.1 - Nagoya, JP @ Huckfinn
    6.3 - Fukuoka, JP @ Utero
    6.4 - Tokyo, JP @ Tsutaya O-Nest
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    Excellent! Just purchased...
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    So, anyone going?
    Here's some pretty decent footage if you need a little push....

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    Seeing as closest is 2 hours away is unlikely.
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