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    Seems there's going to be another re-release this month: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/MAR-193117
    I wonder if this one's going to be a real remaster or just the same as the previous two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Seems there's going to be another re-release this month: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/MAR-193117
    I wonder if this one's going to be a real remaster or just the same as the previous two.
    Got this version today and what I feared became reality: this is the same first Lemon edition, this time re-released by Belle Antique, who only put an OBI on it and a Japanese text-sheet inside it.
    So this is again the version where the needle skipped back in track 4 during the manufacturing of the CD-master for which they used a bad sounding LP.
    Avoid!

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    I'll upload my remaster a bit later for all fans so you can have it sounding right
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    I'll upload my remaster a bit later for all fans so you can have it sounding right
    That would be awesome. I had both albums and they both were destroyed from water damage.
    It's probably been discussed, but Pat Thrall played on a Asia Tour with Wetton, Palmer and Downes and can be seen on tour in the Asia: Live in Moscow DVD.
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    here are MP3 conversions from the CD

    if you want a copy of the CD PM me and we'll figure it out

    https://we.tl/t-YiU1RWSm3U
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    How did I miss this thread in its first life?

    Quote Originally Posted by spacefreak View Post
    It is a solid album. Can't say the same for the disaster that was the follow-up.
    Yup, my thoughts exactly... and it sucked that both of their albums had such (relatively poor) similar artworks

    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    I saw this album a million times back in the day in cut-out bins. I'd also see it in Goldmine under a Prog heading, but I always assumed it was BS. So it's Prog-Rock and worth getting?
    Certainly where I discovered the band... I was curious about Thrall (then in PTB), and heavily hesitated to buy it despite the dirt-cheap price. Glad I did as Shrieve came in free inside the package.
    Had to be careful about which of their album you brought home: the blue one was the one to get, but the pink one had a slightly better artwork.
    Luckily, I brougth home the right one first, but didn't like it enough to bring in the second one (a buddy had warned me about it too, if memory serves)

    Quote Originally Posted by gearHed289 View Post
    This is one of those albums that seemed to be in EVERYONE'S milk crates back in the day. Sounds very much "of its time", but holds up pretty well.
    You mean in garage sales or cut-out bins??
    It's been decades I'd heard this album... actually I'd almost forgotten they existed.
    Found out about the band when Pat Thrall joined the Pat Travers Band, and I was pleased to find Shrieve sitting on the drum stool.
    The YT clip should be enough... Not sure I need the CD taking up precious space on my shelves

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplyrjvb View Post
    Those pre-Perry Journey records definitely mine the eponymous Automatic Man album's territory!
    Yes, but it does sound dated (especially on the vocals dept, but KB as well)... I wouldn't say it aged that well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    depends on one's tastes I guess... the singer annoys me (big surprise I know ) He seems to be trying too hard to sound like Hendrix
    Does Doni Harvey sing any lead vocals? I believe he had a serious Hendrix fixation down to his looks.
    Yeah, I don't hear a shadow of Hendrix in that first album (never heard their second, TBH)...
    However early pre-Perry Journey (especially Next) plenty.
    I prefer this album to Next, though.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    here are MP3 conversions from the CD

    if you want a copy of the CD PM me and we'll figure it out

    https://we.tl/t-YiU1RWSm3U
    Thank you so much for your generousity in uploading this for us. I just downloaded it and will listen to it later today. Not sure if it will appeal to me as much as it did back in the day, but if anything I love album artwork to this very day.
    thanks again
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    And another Asia connection is that Todd Cochrane ( Bayete) played with Carl Palmer in the PM band/album

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    Got this album around the time when it first came out and restocked when it was released on CD. I like most of it and love the title track! Pat Thrall is a bad mofo! I think he only works as a studio engineer these days, which is a shame.

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    I've tweaked the sound of my previous remaster from a decade ago... I think it sounds better

    download this and play it on your best stereo and see if I got it right

    https://we.tl/t-RZ2uvLUCva
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    I've tweaked the sound of my previous remaster from a decade ago... I think it sounds better

    download this and play it on your best stereo and see if I got it right

    https://we.tl/t-RZ2uvLUCva
    Thanks a lot, got it!! will burn a cd and listen on the big stereo this weekend.
    What software are you using to remaster it?
    oh and btw, I like how you added the best 3 songs from Automatic Man 2.
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    the MP3s are the remaster I did a decade ago

    the new remaster is just the one song

    I use various programs depending on what I need to do
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    the MP3s are the remaster I did a decade ago

    the new remaster is just the one song

    I use various programs depending on what I need to do
    Just compared while listening on my Sony MDR 7506 headphones of the WAV version and mp3 Remasters of Automatic Man (song), and the newly remastered WAV version sounds great.
    Will be listening to the cd and new version song this weekend on cd.
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    I'm glad you like the new one. Sometimes if I spend too much time on a remaster I go too far and it sounds too different compared to the original release
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    I'm glad you like the new one. Sometimes if I spend too much time on a remaster I go too far and it sounds too different compared to the original release
    Yeah I've done that when mixing some of my own stuff, so I get that. I'll spend hours re-tweaking and think I've gotten the master mix of the year, only to have my wife listen and tell me, "I liked the first version better!". lol

    I A-B'd Automatic Man song both versions and thought you kept it pretty close to the original, but it sounded cleaner without stripping away the meat and bones of the song.
    Great job MT!!
    I'm going to burn the cd today and my wife and I will listen to it this weekend during our marathon pizza, beer and music festivities.
    I remember her liking it back when I had the album, but then we were young and adventurous and also liked a bit of enhancement while listening. But beer will suffice these days and good music is good anytime.
    Thanks again for posting this stuff and conversation related to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I don't know if they recognize Memorial Day in the Kingdom of YHVH or not, but if so please have a safe enjoyable 3 day holiday.
    We do, but it's on the full moon of Passover and it's not for soldiers, it's for Christ

    Thank you for the kind words my friend! Enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    here are MP3 conversions from the CD

    if you want a copy of the CD PM me and we'll figure it out

    https://we.tl/t-YiU1RWSm3U
    Good, detailed sound! Well done.

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    Never heard this one before: Wallflower, the b-side of My Pearl.


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    Never heard that song , not bad at all , thanks for posting!

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    Here's a listening party/commentary video on two of the highlights from their first album:

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    Thanks for posting ^^ That was fun to watch. Especially the seconds of silence after he mentioned "Asia"... And what the hell was he drinking? Halfway Geni˛ it looked like he actually became in a trance.

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