Dammit. Now I find out I'm not a True Rush Fan, a True Genesis Fan, or a True Pink Floyd Fan!
Mein Fuehrer, show us the way to Truth!
This all sounds vaguely familiar - have we had this line of thought before?
Any album that starts with heartbeats, screaming and voices saying "I've been mad for fucking years", and goes on to sing songs about ageing, death and madness, is hardly playing to the lowest common denominator.
You have Roger to thank for that.. With that said I've read / heard Gilmour say when they had finished DSOTM he realized they had something "pretty special" even going on to say "the best thing we've done".. Personally I can find love for DSOTM as well as WYWH..without beating a dead horse.. When Waters thrust himself to the forefront with his overbearing lyrics / themes etc.. that's where they lost me.. I cut my teeth on the Saucer / More / Ummagumma /AHM / Meddle era thus those albums will always remain top shelf for me..
you guys are silly
the Psych jams of the pre-Meddle years were cool BUT
why would you trash the masterpieces that are DSOTM and WYWH?!
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
+1. What I find amazing in DSOTM is the fact that it is ambitious, dark and yet quite accessible in a good way. A kind of perfect balance between artistic ambition and wide commercial appeal. I guess that this commercial aspect doesn't have a good reputation among prog lovers, but I can't blame the album for being successful and being played on radio. It has a strong identity that goes way beyond the "well produced, well written clean album" reputation.
Yes, I'm a curmugeon, I admit it. DSOTM became IMMENSELY popular, even among fans who didn't know PF from The Rolling Stones or CTA. It consists of "songs about ageing, death and madness" and it includes "heartbeats, screaming, and voices" as you say -- but at the heart of it, it still "consists of songs" which was a somewhat of a return to their Barrett-era pop-band roots. What they were trying with "Echoes" and "Saucerful" and all the others I mentioned were definitively not POP SONGS.
DSOTM is a masterpiece of combining pop songs with funny noises and sound effects, but it's still at the heart of it an accessible album of pop songs.
I opened this expecting another 8 CD box set announcement.
AOR??
Yeah, maybe that way
Let There Be More light, Embryo and Cymbalene as well, until AHM... and even until Meddle for the first two
well; this IS PE, after all
Yeah, it's cool for some to diss anything post Piper and for others, anything after Meddle.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
Exactly. Just because a few songs (notably Money) got a lot of radio play is no reason to wish the album was never made. It's an iconic masterpiece and there are valid reasons it stayed on the album charts for 20+ years. For once a prog album hit that rare intersection of high level art combined with widespread acclaim. It raised the common denominator instead of pandering to the lowest. I think it's because it was so popular that some people want to be the rebels and naysayers and diss it.
Beatles never went through a period of writing non-hummable art music. With SPLHCB they CLIMBED UP to being progressive, to being innovative.
With DSOTM Floyd climbed down to mass appeal, in my opinion. Feel free to disagree with me -- I'm a curmugeon.
For your listening enjoyment (why the pig? Not sure!). This is the Rainbow Theatre show from before the album was recorded.:
One would think that with the release of DSotM and WYWH Floyd reached their highest level of artistic expression. Nothing against their previous releases, but there is a level of consistent brilliance on these albums that simply isn't present on earlier albums. Meddle is a favorite of mine, but for every "One of These Days" or "Echoes" there is a "San Tropez" and "Seamus".Originally Posted by DocProgger
"And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision."
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Well I would argue that the Beatles started doing "progressive" or artsy stuff with Rubber Soul and Revolver, and with Sgt Pepper put together a full blown "art rock" masterpiece that was revolutionary yet simultaneously still appealed to the masses because the songs were so good. In that sense, in many ways, DSOTM was the true progressive rock followup masterpiece to Sgt Pepper(taking that linked and theme idea to another level).
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"Meddle" is also my favorite. (My favorite period is 1969-71.) But, I do consider WYWH their only perfect album from beginning to end. Even DSOTM has one filler track, IMO. That being "Any Colour You Like," as great as it is.
Well, DSOTM has been called the "Sgt. Pepper" of the 70s.
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I've come to the conclusion that I can't peg down a fav album with these cats. Same with Tull. But I will say that The Wall and The Final Cut are my least favs, but I still dig The Wall for the most part. I loved the Floyd binge I did back in '17.
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I truly enjoy a smattering of songs from each album. My first was "Set the controls...", but I first heard it live. On Ummagumma. After DSOTM came out I was in college and began collecting bootlegs. All of the long, reverb-laden, slow to crescendo then decrescendo then cresendo/decrescendo again I still enjoy listening to. DSOTM I consider one song. WYWH and Animals are two great albums but, once again, I fell in love with the original versions of the major songs: Raving and Drooling, You gotta be crazy, and Shine on... Long and "interstellar"!
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Hutch: "Rush is variety, Bitch! Rule number one: in my van, its Rush! All Rush, all the time...no exceptions."
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