PinioL crowdfunding new album Bran Coucou

[NogbadTheBad]

You should have seen Poil run around the theatre in their bright red underwear at RIO before the show to announce to everyone that they were about to go on!

Yes I really should have.

[chalkpie]

You should have seen Poil run around the theatre in their bright red underwear at RIO before the show to announce to everyone that they were about to go on!

Love these guys even more now!

[Scrotum Scissor]

They have to be one of the most unconventional bands I've heard in my life.

And you kinda write that as if it's a sorta positive thang, like?

[Steve F.]

Yes I really should have.

Honestly, unless you were napping, at the restaurant or blind, I cannot imagine how you could possibly have missed it!

[NogbadTheBad]

I did see them run through but I was exhausted and needed something to eat.

[chalkpie]

So after listening to this album a few times, I can wholeheartedly say I like it, but I don't absolutely love it. At heart, Bran Coucou seems to be about disjunct, math-laden odd-time interplay riffs that bounce off each other in very clever ways (not quite far off from Discipline-era Crimson in style to be honest), but the compositions don't seem to develop all that much in some instances, especially over 9+ or 13+ minutes. The grooves themselves are totally sick, fun, musically adept....but are they full of enough musical and artistic substance and merit that will keep me coming back for more? I'm not so sure. Also, harmonically it seems to be quite static (and modal) and personally there is not enough "movement" there to keep me totally engaged.

I really hate to come off as negative because it is (of course) good music, and these guys are absolute masterful technicians who have accomplished what they have set out to do, but its possible that my head-space is drifting away from this type of music, or I'm getting a "been there, heard that" type of response from it, or the "claustrophobic" nature of the sonic landscape is affecting me? Maybe all of these things? The last PoiL album I LOVED. I found the compositions interesting, and the music itself had more breathing room with just three guys, and the music contained some genuine melodic and harmonic ideas that hooked me. I'm not getting that same reaction here however.

I hope my thoughts are not to be taken in any disrespectful manner towards the musicians if you are here, I am merely being honest with my thoughts, and its quite possible that I am off-base here in my assessment. Does anybody feel this way? Differently? Am I approaching this album in the wrong manner? Also, I hope that folks who haven't heard this album be your own judges, and you may absolutely love it, and that is totally nifty if you do!

All of this imo of course with the utmost respect towards the PinioL Clan

[Zeuhlmate]

I enjoyed it a lot, but I agree about the missing developing factor, but it hasn't bothered me.
They get into the groove and somewhat stays there. A little more arranging and building up would make it even more interesting.

[Zappathustra]

So after listening to this album a few times, I can wholeheartedly say I like it, but I don't absolutely love it. At heart, Bran Coucou seems to be about disjunct, math-laden odd-time interplay riffs that bounce off each other in very clever ways (not quite far off from Discipline-era Crimson in style to be honest), but the compositions don't seem to develop all that much in some instances, especially over 9+ or 13+ minutes. The grooves themselves are totally sick, fun, musically adept....but are they full of enough musical and artistic substance and merit that will keep me coming back for more? I'm not so sure. Also, harmonically it seems to be quite static (and modal) and personally there is not enough "movement" there to keep me totally engaged.

I really hate to come off as negative because it is (of course) good music, and these guys are absolute masterful technicians who have accomplished what they have set out to do, but its possible that my head-space is drifting away from this type of music, or I'm getting a "been there, heard that" type of response from it, or the "claustrophobic" nature of the sonic landscape is affecting me? Maybe all of these things? The last PoiL album I LOVED. I found the compositions interesting, and the music itself had more breathing room with just three guys, and the music contained some genuine melodic and harmonic ideas that hooked me. I'm not getting that same reaction here however.

I hope my thoughts are not to be taken in any disrespectful manner towards the musicians if you are here, I am merely being honest with my thoughts, and its quite possible that I am off-base here in my assessment. Does anybody feel this way? Differently? Am I approaching this album in the wrong manner? Also, I hope that folks who haven't heard this album be your own judges, and you may absolutely love it, and that is totally nifty if you do!

All of this imo of course with the utmost respect towards the PinioL Clan

I agree with every little word you wrote. Just want to add that all this seems absolutely intentional to me. It's like a built-up machine that its purpose is to get you across in pieces, not a full person anymore.

Still think that with a Don Julio deluxe 5.1 remix it might sound like the complete truth finally revealed as music.

[flytomars]

So after listening to this album a few times, I can wholeheartedly say I like it, but I don't absolutely love it. At heart, Bran Coucou seems to be about disjunct, math-laden odd-time interplay riffs that bounce off each other in very clever ways (not quite far off from Discipline-era Crimson in style to be honest), but the compositions don't seem to develop all that much in some instances, especially over 9+ or 13+ minutes. The grooves themselves are totally sick, fun, musically adept....but are they full of enough musical and artistic substance and merit that will keep me coming back for more? I'm not so sure. Also, harmonically it seems to be quite static (and modal) and personally there is not enough "movement" there to keep me totally engaged.

I really hate to come off as negative because it is (of course) good music, and these guys are absolute masterful technicians who have accomplished what they have set out to do, but its possible that my head-space is drifting away from this type of music, or I'm getting a "been there, heard that" type of response from it, or the "claustrophobic" nature of the sonic landscape is affecting me? Maybe all of these things? The last PoiL album I LOVED. I found the compositions interesting, and the music itself had more breathing room with just three guys, and the music contained some genuine melodic and harmonic ideas that hooked me. I'm not getting that same reaction here however.

I hope my thoughts are not to be taken in any disrespectful manner towards the musicians if you are here, I am merely being honest with my thoughts, and its quite possible that I am off-base here in my assessment. Does anybody feel this way? Differently? Am I approaching this album in the wrong manner? Also, I hope that folks who haven't heard this album be your own judges, and you may absolutely love it, and that is totally nifty if you do!

All of this imo of course with the utmost respect towards the PinioL Clan

I agree with all, also share the same sentiments regarding the last Poil album-
However, I have to note that seeing Poil and Piniol in the same 24 hours- Piniol blows Poil out of the water when it comes to the live show (and Poil are fantastic live)
I guess it is that claustrophobic feel of the album, the mass of unseperable sound as opposed to the live show in which you can see which instrument plays what, I guess the visual aspect helps differentiate between the different parts and interaction between the players.