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    ^^ When he was a kid, he was always throwing tantrums and storming off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn View Post
    I hope your staff member is safe. It sounds like most of the province is without power. Some houses in Newfoundland have been washed out to sea.
    Oh my...that's horrendous. Scary...

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    Christ what a week. Might as well have been an earthquake. It didn't effect South Fla but the storm spawned some tornadoes in the Ft. Lauderdale area.
    West coast obviously devastated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Christ what a week. Might as well have been an earthquake. It didn't effect South Fla but the storm spawned some tornadoes in the Ft. Lauderdale area.
    West coast obviously devastated.
    That is beyond devastating. I'm glad to hear you're safe. Where are you in the state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    That is beyond devastating. I'm glad to hear you're safe. Where are you in the state?
    Miami. In my part of the county we had a little rain and a breeze. That was it. But I've experienced a few cyclones in 38 years of living here.

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    This coming storm has coaxed out the highest levels of hyperbole I've seen from the Weather Network in quite some time. Although I appreciate storm warnings and general preparedness, I'm so sick of every storm now being labeled 'historic', 'once in a generation', 'life-threatening', or 'nightmare'.

    It's winter. It's a snowstorm. Dress warmly and drive carefully or not at all if you can. That's not very click-baity though, is it?
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    We have about a foot of snow in Seattle, and it's 15º out. That makes it crunchy rather than slippery....

    I have a house full of food, and a room full of CDs, and two warm dogs. I'm happy staying in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    This coming storm has coaxed out the highest levels of hyperbole I've seen from the Weather Network in quite some time. Although I appreciate storm warnings and general preparedness, I'm so sick of every storm now being labeled 'historic', 'once in a generation', 'life-threatening', or 'nightmare'.
    We have Once In A Generation/Hundred Year Storms every year now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    We have Once In A Generation/Hundred Year Storms every year now.
    It's so ridiculous. At least around here (Toronto) it is. I grew up with winter storms every year, there's nothing remotely unusual or 'historic' about this one that's coming tomorrow, from everything I've read about it. It's snow/mixed precipitation, cold temps, and potentially strong winds. Yep, that's winter in Toronto!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    It's so ridiculous.
    It is. Over here in Europe (or, rather, on the fringe of Europe) the Meteorological Office has started giving every 'storm' a name early on. So instead of waking up one day to find strong winds blowing about temporarily, we are told days in advance by over-excited weather people that 'Storm Tracey', or 'Storm Edwina' or 'Storm ... (fill in the blank)' is on its way. It scares everyone witless but almost invariably the storm is of no consequence whatsoever.
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    Maybe if they named one "Storm Liz" it would have an effect???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Maybe if they named one "Storm Liz" it would have an effect???
    Now that WOULD be scary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    This coming storm has coaxed out the highest levels of hyperbole I've seen from the Weather Network in quite some time. Although I appreciate storm warnings and general preparedness, I'm so sick of every storm now being labeled 'historic', 'once in a generation', 'life-threatening', or 'nightmare'.

    It's winter. It's a snowstorm. Dress warmly and drive carefully or not at all if you can. That's not very click-baity though, is it?
    Here in Southwest Michigan, the hype is going through the roof. The Weather Channel has been broadcasting from Holland Michigan, which is about an hour from me on Lake Michigan. Now they are calling it a "Bomb Cyclone". Conditions are perfect for major Lake Effect snow for us, but I am not too worried about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    Here in Southwest Michigan, the hype is going through the roof. The Weather Channel has been broadcasting from Holland Michigan, which is about an hour from me on Lake Michigan. Now they are calling it a "Bomb Cyclone". Conditions are perfect for major Lake Effect snow for us, but I am not too worried about it.
    Yep, I've seen 'Bomb cyclone' as well, and just now a new one: 'Crippling storm'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    It's so ridiculous. At least around here (Toronto) it is. I grew up with winter storms every year, there's nothing remotely unusual or 'historic' about this one that's coming tomorrow, from everything I've read about it. It's snow/mixed precipitation, cold temps, and potentially strong winds. Yep, that's winter in Toronto!
    Crazy, isn't it? I went to the liquor store and Indigo (book store for my American friends) a short while ago. I expected it to be busy with Christmas this weekend, but I think that everyone is also panicing to get everything done before the storm of the century hits tomorrow. I'm staying home this weekend. Not because of the storm, but because it's just way to peoply out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn View Post
    Crazy, isn't it? I went to the liquor store and Indigo (book store for my American friends) a short while ago. I expected it to be busy with Christmas this weekend, but I think that everyone is also panicing to get everything done before the storm of the century hits tomorrow. I'm staying home this weekend. Not because of the storm, but because it's just way to peoply out there!
    Yeah, we did Costco, LCBO, and two other big grocery stores to finalize our Christmas ingredients. WOW. People everywhere. I'm glad to have that all done now, and now I'm just hoping we don't lose power on Christmas Eve, with the high winds and plummeting temps.
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    I'll probably regret saying anything, but...

    The term bomb cyclone has been around for many many moons and simply means a storm will drop 24mb of pressure (or more) in 24 hours. These are not uncommon occurrences, it is just a measure of storm intensity. 'Crippling storm' is not a meteorological term, but an adjective that I imagine is pretty self-explanatory. There are some videos out there from Wyoming (and surrounding areas) that show absolutely zero visibility on the roads (and of course the corresponding hundreds of emergency calls of people getting stuck and having accidents). That I think will meet the definition of crippling.

    As for once in a generation....yes this is probably hyperbole, although we will have to see the final results before making that determination. It is certainly an incredibly impressive storm with a huge reach. Wind chills below zero in Texas? Not once in 20 years event, but certainly one that is unusual and can cause harm to people not used to it. Negative 40-50 below in the plain states? Similar deal. A flash freeze for the northern Midatlantic? Ditto. As for 100/500/etc year flooding events...that's obviously outside the scope of this discussion but....they are legitimately happening more often in various places (for various reasons, which would probably be labeled as no go zones for this site).


    All that said...I agree that the hype and hyperbole is overwrought and that 'normal' storms are being hyped up for attention. But this is mainly from places like 'The Weather Channel' and there are places you can go to find competent and level headed forecasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo Chang Ba View Post
    There are some videos out there from Wyoming (and surrounding areas) that show absolutely zero visibility on the roads
    That's approx. 1500 miles away from me. But we're getting the exact same "THE APOCALYPSE IS UPON US!" warnings. Our projected snowfall here is between 5-10 cm. with a wind chill factor reaching about -25 C. I've seen hundreds of days like that. I used to walk to school in worse! (Commence eye-rolling :P )

    Again, preparedness is a good thing, and for areas that don't normally see this kind of winter weather, like the southern U.S. for example, I get that the point needs to be driven home. I'm just getting tired of shaking my head at how - like you say - overwrought it's all becoming. Are these weather forecasts, or excerpts from the book of Revelation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo Chang Ba View Post
    I'll probably regret saying anything, but...
    No, this is good stuff. Thank you for posting it.

    Do we know if this type of weather/storm activity is unusual for December? Because I don't recall too much wild weather this early in the season. Winter only officially began yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    No, this is good stuff. Thank you for posting it.

    Do we know if this type of weather/storm activity is unusual for December? Because I don't recall too much wild weather this early in the season. Winter only officially began yesterday.
    In Michigan we tend to get more lake effect snow in December because Lake Michigan is still all open water. The further into winter we go, the more the lake freezes over and the less lake effect snow there is. That being said, December is very up and down. We have some years where we don't have any significant snow until January, so it can be a crap shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo Chang Ba View Post
    I'll probably regret saying anything, but...

    The term bomb cyclone has been around for many many moons and simply means a storm will drop 24mb of pressure (or more) in 24 hours. These are not uncommon occurrences, it is just a measure of storm intensity. 'Crippling storm' is not a meteorological term, but an adjective that I imagine is pretty self-explanatory. There are some videos out there from Wyoming (and surrounding areas) that show absolutely zero visibility on the roads (and of course the corresponding hundreds of emergency calls of people getting stuck and having accidents). That I think will meet the definition of crippling.

    As for once in a generation....yes this is probably hyperbole, although we will have to see the final results before making that determination. It is certainly an incredibly impressive storm with a huge reach. Wind chills below zero in Texas? Not once in 20 years event, but certainly one that is unusual and can cause harm to people not used to it. Negative 40-50 below in the plain states? Similar deal. A flash freeze for the northern Midatlantic? Ditto. As for 100/500/etc year flooding events...that's obviously outside the scope of this discussion but....they are legitimately happening more often in various places (for various reasons, which would probably be labeled as no go zones for this site).


    All that said...I agree that the hype and hyperbole is overwrought and that 'normal' storms are being hyped up for attention. But this is mainly from places like 'The Weather Channel' and there are places you can go to find competent and level headed forecasts.
    Good post with interesting information. I am hoping this storm does not live up to the hype.

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    Here it did not, except for the cold. currently -8, and the high was about +5 at 5 am. We only got about 3 in of snow, which is good, because my 1 year old snoblower wouldn't start this morning. At 61, I assume that any shoveling I do in these conditions is a risk of life. But, I'm still breathing!
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