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    Surprising Prog 'song writing' collaborations?

    Only just discovered that Rick Astley co-wrote Mission Statement with Fish.
    Does anyone know how this came about?

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    Jason Falkner and R Stevie Moore?


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    Keith Emerson and Peter Hammill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Only just discovered that Rick Astley co-wrote Mission Statement with Fish.
    Does anyone know how this came about?
    I believe that Fish participated some kind of "song writing camp" before Raingods With Zippos album and that was one of the songs was born there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Only just discovered that Rick Astley co-wrote Mission Statement with Fish.
    Does anyone know how this came about?
    I don't know, but I had to look up Rock Astley as I had no idea who he was. That IS surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrimso View Post
    I believe that Fish participated some kind of "song writing camp" before Raingods With Zippos album and that was one of the songs was born there.
    Oh, I do remember him writing about that!

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    Greg Hawkes (keyboardist of The Cars) co-writing Happy the Man’s “Service With a Smile” with Ron Riddle.
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    Didn't Greg Lake write a song with Bob Dylan?

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    I'm still blown away by Daryl Hall on Fripp's Exposure, and that's god knows how many years old.
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    Jon Anderson and Lamont Dozier
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    Trevor Rabin and Anthony Moore.

    It's the closest we'll ever get to that merger of YesWest and Henry Cow that we've always dreamed of!

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    Charlie Drake and Peter Gabriel

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasKDye View Post
    I'm still blown away by Daryl Hall on Fripp's Exposure, and that's god knows how many years old.
    Fripp produced Hall's first solo album, Sacred Songs. When he did his second solo album, several years later, Daryl did a Guest VJ spot on MTV, where he played the Beat Club clip of Larks Tongues In Aspic I (which MTV aired regularly at the time on their Closet Classics show). He said that Larks Tongues In Aspic was the record that made him want to work with Fripp in the first place, though he said he had no recollection why.

    Anyhow, as I recall, Exposure, Sacred Songs, and that Gabriel record that Fripp produced (was it the second or third one), were meant to represent some sort of trilogy of Fripp's efforts to explore "commercial" music (or something like that). But Daryl's record company initially refused to release Sacred Songs, apparently feeling it would damage his "market value" or whatever. They eventually did release the album, something like 2-3 years late.r
    Greg Hawkes (keyboardist of The Cars) co-writing Happy the Man’s “Service With a Smile” with Ron Riddle.
    If I remember correctly, Ron brought Service With A Smile with him. Apparently, he and Greg had been in another band together, before Greg joined The Cars, and that's when wrote that one together.
    Trevor Rabin and Anthony Moore.

    It's the closest we'll ever get to that merger of YesWest and Henry Cow that we've always dreamed of!
    Didn't know about that one, but Moore also collaborated with David Gilmour on some of the songs on A Momentary Lapse Of Reason and The Division Bell.

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    Robert Fripp and The Roches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Jon Anderson and Lamont Dozier
    Forgot about that one, good call!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
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    What now?! When did that happen?!

    I would call Pete Sinfield's career with King CRimson "surprising" in light of everything he's done since then (eg writing songs for Eurovision refugees, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    What now?! When did that happen?!
    On Anderson's In the City of Angels solo album.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post

    Didn't know about that one, but Moore also collaborated with David Gilmour on some of the songs on A Momentary Lapse Of Reason and The Division Bell.
    Continuing with the PF connection, Anthony Moore also cowrote most of Broken China with Richard Wright
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Jon Anderson and Lamont Dozier
    JA and Kitaro on Dream.. Probably not that big of a stretch given that he already collaborated with Vangelis.

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    John O'Brien-Docker and Lucifer's Friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrybrick View Post
    John O'Brien-Docker and Lucifer's Friend
    Man, I just keep thinking about how John Lawton went from Lucifer's Friend to the Les Humphries Singers, then onto Uriah Heep. That just seems like a weird career trajectory. Bad-ass proto-metal to Eurovision to a formerly bad ass hard rock band, all in under 7 years!

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    Jon Anderson and Gowan

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    Has anyone mentioned the Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. songwriting credit on Ambrosia’s “Nice, Nice, Very Nice”? It doesn’t really count as a “collaboration,” though, since apparently the band just asked for his permission to use the poem from Cat’s Cradle as the basis for a song, with Joe Puerta padding it out with extra lyrics.

    Makes me think of some of the funny songwriting credits found on the Solar Plexus albums, though (Norman Mailer, Lawrence Ferlenghetti).

    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Man, I just keep thinking about how John Lawton went from Lucifer's Friend to the Les Humphries Singers, then onto Uriah Heep. That just seems like a weird career trajectory. Bad-ass proto-metal to Eurovision to a formerly bad ass hard rock band, all in under 7 years!
    Lawton was in LF and LHS at the same time. I don’t think LF was anyone’s main/only gig, as they were all doing lots of sessions at the time, the band did lots of exploitation records for dodgy labels under fake band names (Pink Mice, Hell Preachers Inc., The Fantastic Pikes, etc.) and some of them (for sure keyboardist Peter Hecht) were also in James Last’s orchestra!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progbear View Post



    Lawton was in LF and LHS at the same time. I don’t think LF was anyone’s main/only gig, as they were all doing lots of sessions at the time, the band did lots of exploitation records for dodgy labels under fake band names (Pink Mice, Hell Preachers Inc., The Fantastic Pikes, etc.) and some of them (for sure keyboardist Peter Hecht) were also in James Last’s orchestra!
    Never knew any of that, but I guess it makes sense. I get the impression that sort of thing happened with a lot of bands. The members of Heldon, for instance, apparently did a lot of session work. I remember Steve Feigenbaum saying one time that he asked Pinhas about that, with his reply being, "Yes, we were all whores!". I remember Steve saying that he got burned buying a few records that he people like Francois Auger or Didier Batard on them, only to be confronted with entire albums of chansons.

    So are the "exploitation" records worth looking into?

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