that's the SPIRIT (they're in PA )
I'm sure they were proposed a few times before, but I checked (to be extra-sure), they're not in.
But given what's in prog-related, I wouydn't oppose Heart's inclusion
mmmm... Not really... too hard-rocking to be FM/AOR...
Just like Aerosmith is not FM/AOReither.
That was my firsty throught
and that I'd like to go progressively under their gipsy skirts outfit on the Little Queen album
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
^Heart more hard-rocking than Aerosmith? Really?
Please note that I did say 'early AOR'...not as slick as what AOR became later, but still much slicker (IMHO) and obviously radio-friendly than their main influence, Led Zeppelin.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
I'd agree they aren't like REO, but AOR is about as nebulous and hard-to-define as 'prog' is!
I've really only heard the one song, so I honestly don't know. I just thought it was weird that Heart ended up recording a song written by one of the people in Toronto, for the reasons I mentioned in my earlier post.
BTW, I think What About Love one of the songs where Ann Wilson said she thought the vocal was way too whiny sounding on the demo, so when it was determined that they had to do this particular song (and I get the impression she really didn't like having to do other people's songs, in the first place), she intended to put some guts into her delivery.
I can see several different scenarios playing out there. When they did the Behind The Music thing, there was some insinuation that during the 80's "the guys in the band" were giving Ann grief over her weight problems. I think it's Nancy who says they were saying things like, "We'd sell more records if she'd just lose a little weight". Now, they didn't say exactly who was saying these things, but one could theoretically argue that Howard might have been one of the guilty parties in this case (or it could have been Mark Andes or Denny Carmassi, or any combination of the three). So I could see the sisters not wanting to have to deal with that when they reactivated Heart.
Another possibility is they may have figured out they could make more money if they simply hire backup musicians, rather than invite any of the guys who were in past lineups back in.
So who knows what happened.
I always considered Heart to be occasionally proggy because of guitarist Roger Fisher....I thought he was a fantastic player and has some really great moments on those first couple albums....
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[But given what's in prog-related, I wouydn't oppose Heart's inclusion]
Yep, I see no reason these bands can't be in under prog related: The Tubes, The Grateful Dead, Television, Velvet Underground among others.
Wow, listening to Ann - Crazy on you... Clearly she has dropped a few steps down - cant hit the original higher notes in the song. That is a problem I thought was mostly limited to guys as they get older. She sure has a powerrful voice, but it seems like she is really reaching just to hit the nominal high notes. On the original version she goes at least a 5th higher. I think I hear a little meat shred in her voice too.
The Maestro David Kyle would have never allowed Ann to lose a step like that. (RIP Maestro)
(by the way, Heart isnt prog in my book, they're also a pretty good rock band. Proud to have them in my collection).
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https://youtu.be/AEE5OZXJioE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUe3YhCjy6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VOCJokzL_s
Heart never were regarded as 'early AOR'; they were *Rock* and they were regarded as such.
In the second half of the seventies, as Adult Oriented Rock (AOR) were regarded the albums like The Stranger and 52nd Street by Billy Joel, Red Octopus by Jefferson Starship, Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, Sleeper Catcher by Little River Band, Year of the Cat by Al Stewart, City to City by Gerry Rafferty and so on.
My argument has nothing to do with Pop music. I may have as well used classical music as an example. The attributes, you used, apply to just about any music worth publishing. Those attributes on their own do not make particular music necessary appealing to a music fan.
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Last edited by Progmatic; 02-11-2017 at 06:48 AM.
I don't know where this "Adult Oriented Rock" nonsense started from, but that's not what AOR is. What you're describing above is the Adult Contemporary radio format.
AOR stands for "Album Oriented Rock". It evolved out of Progressive Rock radio format. AOR basically dispensed with the freeform element common to early FM stations, and involved instituting a more rigid playlist aimed at greater "commerical appeal" while maintaining the reliance on album tracks, and not just singles.
^This!^
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Yep. That's the way I've always understood it.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Unlike many here, I'll preface this by saying "imo ymmv".
The biggest major difference between Aerosmith and Heart is that Aerosmith sucks and Heart doesn't.
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Perhaps, but I never herad the phrase "Adult Oriented Rock" before I saw it mentioned a few years back on the old PE. I've done a fair amount of reading about the history of rock music, watched documentaries, etc, but I never ever saw anyone talk about "Adult Oriented Rock" anywhere but here. (shrug)
The "lighter" version of album-oriented rock is adult album alternative known as AAA. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adul...ve?wprov=sfla1
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