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    Zappa Question



    I saw this interesting BBC Zappa documentary from 1993 and at one point you see a couple of minutes from a "private" session with The Chieftains, Johny Guitar Watson and some Tuvan throat singers. Are the any audio traces available from these sessions?
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    Recordings of the Tuvan Throat Singers were used on the recently released "Dance Me This".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianG View Post
    Recordings of the Tuvan Throat Singers were used on the recently released "Dance Me This".
    Thanx I will check this out !
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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard View Post
    Thank that's exactly what I was looking for.


    Watch it and hear it
    Ps, there are a couple more videos like this; can't remember which one, but you can also find Johnny Guitar Watson playing guitar with them...

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    http://www.popmatters.com/review/fra...azz-from-hell/

    A new favorable review of Jazz from Heaven

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    a Matt Groening sighting in the first one, awesome!

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    I think there is some good stuff being preserved from the vault from all those sessions.

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    I also have a question regarding Frank Zappa's music...

    Could someone tell me which of his 70s albums were 80% or more instrumental?

    I have
    Hot Rats
    Burnt Weenie
    Weasels
    Wazoo
    Waka Jawaka
    Sleep Dirt
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    I also have a question regarding Frank Zappa's music...

    Could someone tell me which of his 70s albums were 80% or more instrumental?

    I have
    Hot Rats
    Burnt Weenie
    Weasels
    Wazoo
    Waka Jawaka
    Sleep Dirt
    You should have Uncle Meat, too. That's got like 3 songs (and for once, the lyrics are obnoxious satire), and a few spoken word bits, but otherwise, it's a double LP of instrumentals. Well, the CD edition has two stupid "penalty tracks" on the second disc, but you shouldn't be without tracks like the Uncle Meat theme, Dog Breath, Legend Of The Golden Arches, Nine Types Of Industrial Pollution, and most especially the LP side length King Kong.

    And yeah, I know you said 70's era albums, but Uncle Meat is really a great record. So is Lumpy Gravy, which goes even further back, that one also has spoken word bits, but again is by and large mostly instrumental music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markowitz View Post
    a Matt Groening sighting in the first one, awesome!
    Not surprising. Groening sat in on Frank's last major interview, which was done for a special magazine that the publishers of Guitar Player and Keyboard magazines put out right before Frank went home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    Could someone tell me which of his 70s albums were 80% or more instrumental?
    Studio Tan is >50% instrumental and 100 % essential.
    cf also Road tapes #2 (Helsinki 1973), Wazoo (Boston 1972), Little Dots (Petit Wazoo tour 1972)

    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    You should have Uncle Meat, too. the CD edition has two stupid "penalty tracks" on the second disc
    This refers to the first CD edition, remixed by FZ (= UMe 2012). The original mix, along with many outtakes and no penalty tracks, is available on Meat Light. This is the one to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    I also have a question regarding Frank Zappa's music...

    Could someone tell me which of his 70s albums were 80% or more instrumental?

    I have
    Hot Rats
    Burnt Weenie
    Weasels
    Wazoo
    Waka Jawaka
    Sleep Dirt
    Orchestral Favorites

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER View Post
    I also have a question regarding Frank Zappa's music...

    Could someone tell me which of his 70s albums were 80% or more instrumental?
    JAZZ FROM HELL (1986).............100% jazz fusion but oddly, won the Grammy Award for Best Rock Instrumental Performance.
    Frank's venture into the synclavier has some incredible moments..............have you ever heard a grand piano bend a note ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDrummer View Post
    JAZZ FROM HELL (1986).............100% jazz fusion but
    oddly, won the Grammy Award for Best Rock Instrumental Performance.
    Nothing odd about that. The NARAS does that all the time, or they used to anyway, nowadays I'm not sure if they give out Grammys for records that are actually wroth your time and money. But in this case, Frank was perceived by the general public as a "rock musician", and therefore it was the rock and pop categories that he typically got nominated in.

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    The late Paul Pena's doc on Tuvan singers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    The NARAS does that all the time.........nowadays I'm not sure if they give out Grammys for records that are actually worth your time and money.
    Continually proving they don't know shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDrummer View Post
    JAZZ FROM HELL (1986).............100% jazz fusion but oddly, won the Grammy Award for Best Rock Instrumental Performance.
    Jazz fusion is typically played by actual human musicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDrummer View Post
    JAZZ FROM HELL (1986).............100% jazz fusion....
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Jazz fusion is typically played by actual human musicians.
    100% Zappa - trying for avant-classical music, in this case, but with bits of jazz, rock, and musical performance art showing up unpredictably here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Jazz fusion is typically played by actual human musicians.
    No matter, Jazz From Hell is not fusion or jazz, it's modern composition.

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    ...And St Etienne music

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Nothing odd about that. The NARAS does that all the time, or they used to anyway, nowadays I'm not sure if they give out Grammys for records that are actually wroth your time and money. But in this case, Frank was perceived by the general public as a "rock musician", and therefore it was the rock and pop categories that he typically got nominated in.
    I always loved it when they called him "Rocker, Frank Zappa..." I just can see Frank's smirk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarThrower View Post
    No matter, Jazz From Hell is not fusion or jazz, it's modern composition.

    It's musical information.


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