Thread: Synthesizer Gear Porn ;-)

  1. #976
    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Yeah...it's nothing I would reach for regularly in the studio.

    But it is a fairly clever idea and for someone who is a huge FM synthesis fan (not me ), it might be tempting...
    I'm not sure I would reach for it, the sound at the end, where the guy is really playing sounded good, but I wonder what one can really do fidling with the possibilities. The largest part of the video was just some sequences, where the guy fidled a bit on the screen, but no explanation about what does what.

  2. #977
    Yeah...that's Perfect Circuit Audio's page and video...they're a vendor so they tend to favor quick showoff videos rather than deep feature dives (Sweetwater is much better at the latter, to be honest).

    I listen to the sounds and they do sound great...my own question is always, "would I want to program this sound myself from scratch in FM, or would I be perfectly happy simply using and/or slightly tweaking the FM sounds coming from things like the Arturia DX7-V, or what the Hydrasynth or EaganMatrix can do?"

    To me, spending $1400 on an FM synth where I rarely ever went below the surface to do any hardcore programming...it probably would be a waste of funds. For me.

    I seem to recall that Brian Eno was one of the few people who actually realized some of the sound sculpting potential of the DX7 so a module like this might light his imagination on fire.
    If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
    https://battema.bandcamp.com/

    Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: http://www.ephemeralsun.com

  3. #978
    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Yeah...that's Perfect Circuit Audio's page and video...they're a vendor so they tend to favor quick showoff videos rather than deep feature dives (Sweetwater is much better at the latter, to be honest).

    I listen to the sounds and they do sound great...my own question is always, "would I want to program this sound myself from scratch in FM, or would I be perfectly happy simply using and/or slightly tweaking the FM sounds coming from things like the Arturia DX7-V, or what the Hydrasynth or EaganMatrix can do?"

    To me, spending $1400 on an FM synth where I rarely ever went below the surface to do any hardcore programming...it probably would be a waste of funds. For me.

    I seem to recall that Brian Eno was one of the few people who actually realized some of the sound sculpting potential of the DX7 so a module like this might light his imagination on fire.
    It's the same for me. I have a Yamaha TX81Z and I made some sounds, basicly by tweaking existing sounds. It's my oldest multi-timbral module and it is still working and I sometimes use it. On my old version of Cubase 3.1 there was a module which could be used to store and load sounds and I think it also offered the possiblity to do some tweaking. It is something I miss on my current version of Cubase. I discovered the Yamaha TX81Z is the only synthesizer I own which can be worked with on my current version of Cubase. I need to look into it, someday.

  4. #979
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    There is still some need for some sort of intuitive interface to make FM more user tweakable - some metaphor where the outcome feel more predictable. Following some sort of analog path with virtual waveforms and filters would be counter productive with regard to what FM is capable of. Maybe the west coast modular approach is better - but again, that approach is not very intuitive to start with... Maybe some specific tweakable macros, like a piano mode, bass mode, melodic percussion mode, etc modes that focuses on the already established FM strengths...
    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  5. #980
    Quote Originally Posted by pmrviana View Post
    That's kind of the idea behind the Kawai K3. It has a programmable digital waveform, which means you can additively create a new waveform by selecting the levels of each individual harmonic, and then you can use it as a source for the subtractive synthesis (with real analog filters, not digital!). Sure, it's a bit crude compared to what we are normally discussing here, but quite an interesting synth for its time...
    The Roland SH3A was kind of an early, crude, analog attempt at additive synthesis. Technically, Hammond organs (and other drawbar organs) use a limited form of additive synthesis, as does Davoli’s synthesizer (which is really more of a monophonic organ with some synth controls than a proper synth).
    Confirmed Bachelors: the dramedy hit of 1883...

  6. #981
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    Anyone tried the K5000 with 64 partials, each with its own envelope generator...
    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  7. #982
    Quote Originally Posted by hFx View Post
    Anyone tried the K5000 with 64 partials, each with its own envelope generator...
    You can see my K5000W in the live Church of Hed show video... I only use it during this set as an organ paired with another organ patch on the Waldorf MicroQ. It’s a great pairing, unfortunately you can’t hear it in the mix. I wasn’t planning on using it, but decided to on the fly in the middle of Brandenburg Heights 1, thus the level wasn’t set properly. Oops!

    In general it’s very difficult to program due the number of parameters around the partials, and the menu diving it takes to get at them. Every few years I get a hankering to dive in and conjure up a new patch. It’s great for those late 70s pulsing Larry Fast sonics. I have no problem with quite a few of the presets. Theres’s a fun Belew-esque patch I use on the trieponymous Church of Hed by Church of Hed from Church of Hed.

    Last edited by TheNefariousHED; 4 Weeks Ago at 06:20 PM.
    Quarkspace on Facebook
    Church of Hed on Facebook
    TabMuse -- an online resource dedicated to iOS, Android, hardware, and desktop music apps and synths
    Church of Hed/Quarkspace on Bandcamp

  8. #983
    ^
    Nice stuff. That New Interlude reminded me a bit of Wendy Carlos.

  9. #984
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    ^
    Nice stuff. That New Interlude reminded me a bit of Wendy Carlos.
    Thanks for checking it out and the Wendy reference! The Streichfett reigns on that track (paired with the Korg Z1). The MoogCoast (Sub 37/Make Noise 0-Coast) tandem is doing the arpeggio.
    Quarkspace on Facebook
    Church of Hed on Facebook
    TabMuse -- an online resource dedicated to iOS, Android, hardware, and desktop music apps and synths
    Church of Hed/Quarkspace on Bandcamp

  10. #985
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    A really nice concert! Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNefariousHED View Post
    In general it’s very difficult to program due the number of parameters around the partials, and the menu diving it takes to get at them. Every few years I get a hankering to dive in and conjure up a new patch. It’s great for those late 70s pulsing Larry Fast sonics. I have no problem with quite a few of the presets. Theres’s a fun Belew-esque patch I use on the trieponymous Church of Hed by Church of Hed from Church of Hed.
    So much I have understood, that it require a major efforts! Additive is easier to grasp but even more complicated to get the desired result. Theoretically you should be able to do "anything" with such control over so many partials, but in practice - well...
    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  11. #986

  12. #987

  13. #988
    Member dropforge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    2,036
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    That was awesome!


  14. #989
    Outraged bystander markwoll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    2,752
    Maybe yes, maybe no
    https://i.imgur.com/4cpgqcZ.mp4
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
    -- Aristotle
    Nostalgia, you know, ain't what it used to be. Furthermore, they tells me, it never was.
    “A Man Who Does Not Read Has No Appreciable Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read” - Unknown

  15. #990
    Quote Originally Posted by markwoll View Post
    If he records an album it can be called Sticky fingers.

    I wonder how it works.

  16. #991
    Outraged bystander markwoll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    2,752
    Some sore of synth kink going on
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
    -- Aristotle
    Nostalgia, you know, ain't what it used to be. Furthermore, they tells me, it never was.
    “A Man Who Does Not Read Has No Appreciable Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read” - Unknown

  17. #992
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    Quote Originally Posted by markwoll View Post
    Some sore of synth kink going on
    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  18. #993
    A synthesizer with valves

    https://knifaudio.com/knifonium/

    A bit pricy, but there seems to be a software version as well.

  19. #994
    Yeah, the Knifonium looks crazy sweet. Debated the VST version since it's MASSIVELY less expensive. Decided to pass though.
    If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
    https://battema.bandcamp.com/

    Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: http://www.ephemeralsun.com

  20. #995
    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Yeah, the Knifonium looks crazy sweet. Debated the VST version since it's MASSIVELY less expensive. Decided to pass though.
    According to the maker of the Knifonium, the VST version sounds the same and is polyphonic.

  21. #996
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    Really nice improvised live session from synth artist Burg! More goodies in the YT-channel!

    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  22. #997
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    New Arturia Polybrute - promising 6 voice poly which is not just "more of the same"!

    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  23. #998

  24. #999
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    ^^^
    Interesting, but a bit pricey.
    Agreed!
    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

  25. #1000
    Member hFx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    515
    https://www.progressiveears.org/foru...l=1#post997547

    The second half of this video from the Yes 90125 tour displays some classic keys from the era (yes, including the new flagship DX7 )
    My Progressive Workshop at http://soundcloud.com/hfxx

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •