Thread: Cardiacs--where to start?

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    That cinematic coda to Wireless, though. Seriously. It french kisses me every single time.
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    np:

    Cardiacs - Cardiacs Live.


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    All of them (including nymphs and japs) are their best albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    All of them (including nymphs and japs) are their best albums.
    Well, we know that. Its kind of silly to leave out A Little Man and Songs For Ships (although the Big Ship EP was listed), but hey, any Cardiacs attention is good....plus its largely positive.

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    OK, I just pulled the trigger on a VG+/NM copy of On Land from some cat in The Netherlands named Tom on Discogs. It is by far my most expensive vinyl purchase (almost embarrassingly so) but not totally over the top. Not sure how I am going to break the news to my wife about this PayPal charge - I'm serious about that. Excited! Excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    OK, I just pulled the trigger on a VG+/NM copy of On Land from some cat in The Netherlands named Tom on Discogs. It is by far my most expensive vinyl purchase (almost embarrassingly so) but not totally over the top. Not sure how I am going to break the news to my wife about this PayPal charge - I'm serious about that. Excited! Excited!
    Tell her it was for something you'll be in less trouble for, like an escort or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    Tell her it was for something you'll be in less trouble for, like an escort or something.
    Brilliant idea! You Canadians never cease to amaze me.

    PS - where in Canada are you from? We probably grew up fairly close-ish geographically speaking since I am from Rochester, NY. I could've swam across Lake Ontario to your place in my speedo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    PS - where in Canada are you from? We probably grew up fairly close-ish geographically speaking since I am from Rochester, NY. I could've swam across Lake Ontario to your place in my speedo.
    Burlington. And I live two blocks from the lake, but I think if you swam from Rochester you'd end up more in Peterborough area, nowhere near me. We did grow up with the same climate though! We used to drive down to Buffalo to see shows at the Memorial auditorium, back in the days when that was easier to do. Only took just over an hour, unless you hit that nasty Buffalo lake effect snow.
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    Nurses Whispering Verses (Cardiacs cover) Dusters at Dawn featuring Didier Malherbe
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post


    Nurses Whispering Verses (Cardiacs cover) Dusters at Dawn featuring Didier Malherbe
    Great cover! They really took this tune to whole other sonic space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    Great cover! They really took this tune to whole other sonic space.
    Definitely. Another Cardiacs/Gong connection too . The amount of Cardiacs covers popping up on YT is wonderful.
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    PS - Buds and Spawn hit me again as one of the greatest Cardiacs tune - I have sometimes struggled with the intensity/form at times, but I've just given up and let it wallop me. Tim's vocals are absolute TOPS on this too - has he ever sounded better?

    PS - Does anybody know what the instrumental part of "Too Go Off.." is that serves as the 'coda' on the Maresnest version? I can't place it as a Cardiacs melody and it's possible its just another great scored section written by Tim played during this era?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    That cinematic coda to Wireless, though. Seriously. It french kisses me every single time.
    Tear-inducing potential for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    That cinematic coda to Wireless, though. Seriously. It french kisses me every single time.
    I'm sure you already know this one then....


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    I'm sure you already know this one then....

    I was OBSESSED the first time I heard Spratleys Japs with finding the CD (was a bit hard at that point, think it's easier now). This was the exact track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smcfee View Post
    I was OBSESSED the first time I heard Spratleys Japs with finding the CD (was a bit hard at that point, think it's easier now). This was the exact track.
    Don't tell me! It took me three years for finally having the courage to bid 51 euros on Ebay and get one!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Does anybody know what the instrumental part of "Too Go Off.." is that serves as the 'coda' on the Maresnest version? I can't place it as a Cardiacs melody and it's possible its just another great scored section written by Tim played during this era?
    It's called Bic's Bit. Apparently written by Tim, but giving Bic a chance to show off and fall into the crowd (Bic being a certain Christian Hayes from Levitation and Mikrokosmos fame)

    I suppose everyone has noticed Jon Poole and Bob Leith in the Maresnest front row right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosefish View Post
    It's called Bic's Bit. Apparently written by Tim, but giving Bic a chance to show off and fall into the crowd (Bic being a certain Christian Hayes from Levitation and Mikrokosmos fame)

    I suppose everyone has noticed Jon Poole and Bob Leith in the Maresnest front row right?
    Cheers for that...another amazing snippet into Tim's creativity. I did not see Jon/Bob but will next time.
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    In taking a break from Udi's 19+ hour Morricone compilation, I blissed out to both these diamond nuggets. There are no words to describe the utter amazingness of the moments captured in time here. The band is on fire for both and you really witness how brilliant Tim was not only in his playing/singing on these but his humorous and commanding stage presence. He exuded warmth and friendliness, even in quick smile. Jim with a goatee too! What gems.

    PS - there might even be a Sir Kavus sighting near the end of the Bolton gig. I guess this was The Sing to God Tour (if that even existed?).

    PPS - They played "Ideal" on the 93 gig!!! Ideal!!! Fucking hell.
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    Thanks, folks. I may be the only person within a 200-mile radius to dig this, but I don't care; it's a rabbit hole I'm willing to explore on my own. Glad I have some long-distance aficionadi to chat with.
    Congrats on picking two excellent records.

    Did the albums arrive? And if so, what are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Congrats on picking two excellent records.

    Did the albums arrive? And if so, what are your thoughts?
    Got them last week! I've listened more to A little man... so far and am really connecting to it. Sing to God will take a few more through-listens, I think. But they're both amazing; completely insane, and I love it. I also picked up three Knifeworld albums, Hip to the Jag, and The Utopia Strong s/t, so I'm kind of immersing myself in all those worlds as time permits. Fun times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    That cinematic coda to Wireless, though. Seriously. It french kisses me every single time.
    Because we Yan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by proggy_jazzer View Post
    Got them last week! I've listened more to A little man... so far and am really connecting to it. Sing to God will take a few more through-listens, I think. But they're both amazing; completely insane, and I love it. I also picked up three Knifeworld albums, Hip to the Jag, and The Utopia Strong s/t, so I'm kind of immersing myself in all those worlds as time permits. Fun times!
    One would hate to jump in at this point but hey, from my perspective at least, that’s some good listenin’

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    NP: On Land And In The Sea (Just cracked the shrink wrap on this CD, so my first full listen. I listened to about 1/2 of it on Spotify months ago. Not sure what to make of this one yet, but it's fun. Next listen I'm wearing reading glasses; tiny, blue type on white is a bitch! I like the blank page for Notes!)
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