Thread: Cardiacs--where to start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    ^ For me Cardiacs is music that comes along in your life, changes it in a way, and you're never the same. How many times that happens probably varies from person to person but its special.
    Yep. It has been a long journey for me. But all along, even when I didn't know why exactly I kept coming back to the Cardiacs, I kinda knew the life changing moment would happen eventually.

    And it is still an ongoing process. There are still times I can't stand 'em. Maybe it will always be that way. But the penny has dropped. I get them. They scratch a particular itch that no one else really can.

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    I took this in my backyard the other day - found it reminiscent:

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    Also, watching the coverage of yesterday's stage of the Tour de France, I noticed that each time a rider crossed the finish line someone blew a horn that sounded the first few notes of the Marseillaise, but with the top note (the 5th of the key) being replaced by the #4. Very Cardiacs. (insert music nerd emoji here)
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    Quote Originally Posted by proggy_jazzer View Post
    I took this in my backyard the other day - found it reminiscent:

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    Also, watching the coverage of yesterday's stage of the Tour de France, I noticed that each time a rider crossed the finish line someone blew a horn that sounded the first few notes of the Marseillaise, but with the top note (the 5th of the key) being replaced by the #4. Very Cardiacs. (insert music nerd emoji here)
    That's cool. I've had the thought of really nerding out and counting how many of Tim's compositions contain the lydian mode....I know it's a lot lot lot...maybe someday?

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    Question: The tunes on Archive are the actual versions on The Obvious Identity and Toy World, yeah? - So were the rest of those tunes on the albums found in as good as sound quality as the Archive tunes? They sound really amazing for the date and considering Tim's age. Having those first two albums in amazing sound quality (a la Archives) would be beyond beyond.

    PS - I had a near out-of-body listening to this last night in headphones. Actually I did twice in a row! Sir Kavus - you are absolutely correct mate! The way the keyboard lines interact is really astonishing, but it's so easy to get lost in the entire piece - whether it's Tim's voice, lyrical content, the keyboards, the melodies, the chords, the overall spaceiness and otherworldliness, etc, etc. It's another tune that mere words can't do it justice. Pieces like this, Dirty Boy, and Everso Closely Guarded Line really ask profound questions of myself that I probably can't explain here. Deep doesn't even begin to cover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Question: The tunes on Archive are the actual versions on The Obvious Identity and Toy World, yeah? - So were the rest of those tunes on the albums found in as good as sound quality as the Archive tunes? They sound really amazing for the date and considering Tim's age. Having those first two albums in amazing sound quality (a la Archives) would be beyond beyond.
    When I listen to the original cassette albums on youtube I find that the sound quality varies a lot between tunes. I also understood that some of the original mastertapes were lost of these recordings. But hey; that's why we have the garage concerts.

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    Craig Fortnam (North Sea Radio Orchestra / Arch Garrison) has a solo album released today



    it's very good.
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    Listening now. Indeed very good. It DOES sound like a mix between NSRO and Arch Garrison.

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    Both of these are wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Craig Fortnam (North Sea Radio Orchestra / Arch Garrison) has a solo album released today

    it's very good.
    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    Listening now. Indeed very good. It DOES sound like a mix between NSRO and Arch Garrison.
    Nice surprise! Will have to pick this up on BC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post




    Both of these are wonderful.
    Wow! Going from Helen and Heaven right into Savour was seamless. I almost didn't realize they had changed songs. Way cool.

    Now I'm listening to HBaEB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    Listening now. Indeed very good. It DOES sound like a mix between NSRO and Arch Garrison.
    Good lord this is great. This evokes a strong autumnal feeling for me after one spin. I may pick this up on vinyl if it's available....a wonderful album! Congrats Craig if yer out there.

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    Everything Craig does is pure gold for me. Shrubbies, NSRO, Arch Garrison; I love it all.

    For this new album, released under his own name, I kinda hoped for something a bit different from what he has done before. It isnt really.

    Dissapointed? Nah. I just love his writing style, so I love this too.

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    What are your absolute fav other Craig Fortnam albums? I've already played Arc three times - it pushes me button. Beep. Beep.........beep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    What are your absolute fav other Craig Fortnam albums? I've already played Arc three times - it pushes me button. Beep. Beep.........beep.
    Pffooo....like...all of them?

    But gun to my head I would say:
    Shrubbies, NSRO -I a Moon, Arch Garrison -I will be a pilgrim. Really, all albums have a consistent high quality.

    Special kuddos for the NSRO rework of Rock Bottom.

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    I'd probably go NSRO - I A Moon and Arch Garrison - I Will Be A Pilgrim
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    Pffooo....like...all of them?

    But gun to my head I would say:
    Shrubbies, NSRO -I a Moon, Arch Garrison -I will be a pilgrim. Really, all albums have a consistent high quality.

    Special kuddos for the NSRO rework of Rock Bottom.
    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    I'd probably go NSRO - I A Moon and Arch Garrison - I Will Be A Pilgrim
    Cheers guys. Will definitely revisit those.

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    Timmy xoxoxo
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post


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    One year ago today already, eh?

    I still think about Timmy quite often. His music is constantly in my head, even when I am not playing it. What a legacy.

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    Wow... It's already been a year? This one still hurts. Reckon I'll listen to some Cardiacs and other Tim-related works today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    One year ago today already, eh?

    I still think about Timmy quite often. His music is constantly in my head, even when I am not playing it. What a legacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Wow... It's already been a year? This one still hurts. Reckon I'll listen to some Cardiacs and other Tim-related works today.
    Yep. Still beyond heartbroken. But this immense music lives on stronger than ever. I'd like to think that the "secret" is out more than it ever has been.

    Ill be watching this again tonight in a bit:


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