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    Wow, you can't make this shit up. I thought the article was satire.
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    Wow, you can't make this shit up. I thought the article was satire.
    Oh you

    I would assume (hope) that Prog God Anderson was being more than a little tongue in cheek, especially such wonderful moments of anti-lucidity as "Jon + Vangelis inspired Thriller!"
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    Funny, I just listened to Jon & Vangelis the other day, prompted by hearing Donna Summer's cover of State of Independence. Jon was top of the charts there for a couple of years 80-82, with his solo career and the albums with Vangelis. The albums are quite good, don't know if I'd say of an "era", but they have a unique signature that while it had its moment, I can see why it went no further. Not sure what may have happened if he didn't jump ship to 90125, but he definitely lost momentum after 84 or so; Yes went into sloth mode getting BG out, and his solo albums were searching for a sound. Three Ships was just odd, and the other one City Of Angels... just not what a Yes fan would expect, and probably not the other way as well!

    But those years 80-82, he should be proud of, he and Vangelis created a unique sound, and some very interesting work.
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    This man is a lunatic.

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    This man is a lunatic.
    For some reason this didn't sink in for me until the 90s. All the signs were there all along....

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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Oh you

    I would assume (hope) that Prog God Anderson was being more than a little tongue in cheek, especially such wonderful moments of anti-lucidity as "Jon + Vangelis inspired Thriller!"
    Jon has repeatedly made the claim that someone closely involved with the production of "Billie Jean" (don't think it was Quincy Jones, but maybe) was a big fan of the title track from "The Friends Of Mr Cairo" whose synth bass line does resemble that of "Billie Jean", and that he'd had first-hand confirmation that said bass-line was directly inspired by it.

    PS: Wiki claims otherwise. Says Jackson had told Daryl Hall he'd lifted the bassline from Hall & Oates' "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    The former Yes vocalist claims that he and Phil Collins were signed to Virgin at the same time – and that the label asked for his pay advance back after hearing both of their projects.
    I gotta admit if I were a record industry "suit" I would have probably tried to do the same thing. LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Jon has repeatedly made the claim that someone closely involved with the production of "Billie Jean" (don't think it was Quincy Jones, but maybe) was a big fan of the title track from "The Friends Of Mr Cairo" whose synth bass line does resemble that of "Billie Jean", and that he'd had first-hand confirmation that said bass-line was directly inspired by it.

    PS: Wiki claims otherwise. Says Jackson had told Daryl Hall he'd lifted the bassline from Hall & Oates' "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)".
    Yep...it resembles it, in that it's a synth bass, played mostly with 8th notes, and it sticks to Western 12-tone chromatic tuning. The actual notes and melody...not so much. Even the synth tone itself is pretty different.

    But hard to nitpick on any one of Anderson's flights of fancy; shoot one down, and there are always others to take its place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Jon has repeatedly made the claim that someone closely involved with the production of "Billie Jean" (don't think it was Quincy Jones, but maybe) was a big fan of the title track from "The Friends Of Mr Cairo" whose synth bass line does resemble that of "Billie Jean", and that he'd had first-hand confirmation that said bass-line was directly inspired by it..
    Quincy Jones produced Donna Summer's "State of Independence" just before Thriller, so you never know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrybrick View Post
    Funny, I just listened to Jon & Vangelis the other day, prompted by hearing Donna Summer's cover of State of Independence.
    That tune is so much better as performed by ABP, with all of the icky 80s removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrybrick View Post
    Funny, I just listened to Jon & Vangelis the other day, prompted by hearing Donna Summer's cover of State of Independence. Jon was top of the charts there for a couple of years 80-82, with his solo career and the albums with Vangelis. The albums are quite good, don't know if I'd say of an "era", but they have a unique signature that while it had its moment, I can see why it went no further. Not sure what may have happened if he didn't jump ship to 90125, but he definitely lost momentum after 84 or so; Yes went into sloth mode getting BG out, and his solo albums were searching for a sound. Three Ships was just odd, and the other one City Of Angels... just not what a Yes fan would expect, and probably not the other way as well!

    But those years 80-82, he should be proud of, he and Vangelis created a unique sound, and some very interesting work.
    State of Independence is the tune in question. Quincy Jones produced Donna Summer's cover, with Michael Jackson singing backup vocals. Not much of a stretch to think it influenced "Billie Jean" but I haven't heard direct quotes saying that.

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    Phil Collins ruined Bald!

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    I actually like the song If It Wasn't For Love on ITCOA, and think it should have gotten some airplay, but I can't remember a single other song from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay.Dee View Post
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    Phil Collins ruined Yes too.
    Phil Collins ruined his own career....at least for progheads. Jon sounds quite spaced out in this interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersonic Scientist View Post
    THIS...Made me spit out my morning coffee......hilarious. Thx JA for that chuckle.
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