^'Walter's Walk' has always struck me as an 'out-fake'...Plant's vocals on that were clearly recorded later IMHO. I think it's a studio jam with overdubbed vocals more than a 'song'. 'D'Yer Maker' isn't great but I can tolerate it, and I don't find it a total embarrassment, as I do 'The Crunge'. 'The Cringe' would have been more appropriate.
'Revelation' unfortunately takes up a whole side of Da Capo, so it's a pretty big 'one song away', but the first side is pure perfection. Every song a gem.
Some have also theorised that it's a post-suicide song, from the girl in the afterlife.
'Paper Lies' is the dud on Brave for me. Doesn't really fit conceptually and I don't like it, in fact I seldom if ever like Marillion in 'rocker' mode (see also 'Deserve', 'Most Toys', 'Hooks In You').
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
I forgot about "The Hospital Song" on the first 10CC album. The whole CD & it's brother Sheet Music is silly, but silly in a good way, but Hospital Song cross the line from silly to annoying.
I find 'I Wanna Rule The World' a considerable black mark on How Dare You as well. It's too fussy, over-arranged and clever-clever...too many ideas.
Confirmed Bachelors: the dramedy hit of 1883...
Great post, SS. Even after all this time, I'm so sorry about your future brother-in-law's tragedy. I blew off both Four Sail & Out Here 40 plus years ago after a couple of listens. I remember liking "Singing Cowboy" & "Robert M", but not much more than that. I must have missed Echols, Forssi, Stuart & Cantrelli too much back then. Side A of Da Capo is as brilliant as side B is absurdly shitty.
Siden jeg er en stor fan av Norge spesielt , og du er en av mindretallet her som jeg synes har mye forløsende sosial verdi , vil jeg lytte til dem igjen etter en veldig lang pause . (Blame google translate if this is f****d up)
"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician, and to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference"
President Harry S. Truman
Yes, those and 'Iceberg' are not great, now you come to mention it. The high points are so high- 'How Dare You', 'Lazy Ways', 'I'm Mandy Fly Me', 'Art For Arts Sake', 'Don't Hang Up'- that one can see past those. But 'I Wanna Rule The World' is the biggest turkey for me. I think you can hear the schism in the band on that album...they felt much more unified on the first three.
RE; Four Sail. Worth having for 'August' alone. It's not so baroque as the previous albums, more Hendrix/Cream-style, but that is a great track.
For years I used to think the song "Elijah" on the first Spirit album was the one song that ruined an otherwise perfect album. Over the past 10 years or so, I've come to appreciate that song, particularly after hearing alternate and live versions of it. I read that when the band was living together in Topanga Canyon in the late 60s, they would start each day jamming to "Elijah" just to see where things went and sometimes new songs came out of the improvisations.
Lou
Looking forward to my day in court.
Todd Rundgren - Initiation "A treatise on cosmic fire"
Sorry, but I can't even begin to relate to the idea of one song ruining an entire album of otherwise good material.
In fact, I actually have the opposite approach.
I rate albums and artists highly based on their best material, not downgrade them because of their worst.
Their are plenty of albums in my collection that I consider brilliant, despite having one of two songs I don't listen to.
I mean, seriously, Tarkus has the song "Are You Ready Eddie"! Modern convenience makes it way too easy to hit the 'skip' button on bad songs.
And if there were a god, I think it very unlikely that he would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence - Russell
I’d agree there. They definitely went out on a high, “Don’t Hang Up” might be their best song, with one of Kevin Godley’s finest and most affecting vocal performances. I’m getting chills just thinking about it.
I’d say “Head Room” is worse by a hair, since it’s just four minutes of them going “tee-hee! Get it?” [elbows you in the ribs]. IWRTW at least doesn’t start out as awful as it ends up. And as creepy as the lyrical subject matter of “Iceberg” is, it’s at least musically interesting (and how many other songs did Kevin and Graham collaborate on, anyway?). Which is more than can be said for “Rock & Roll Lullabye,” which is probably the least memorable song by this edition of the band.But 'I Wanna Rule The World' is the biggest turkey for me.
Emphasis on felt. Apparently, they were always weak bonds holding the two pairs together. I think that The Original Soundtrack, as much of a classic as it is, was the beginning of the end. It seems that much of the reason “I’m Not in Love” sounds like it does is due to the intrusion of Lol Creme, who didn’t even write it. Also, if Kev and Lol had their way, “Une nuit à Paris” would have taken up an entire side of vinyl, but Graham and Eric pronounced it “boring,” and demanded they edit it down.I think you can hear the schism in the band on that album...they felt much more unified on the first three.
Confirmed Bachelors: the dramedy hit of 1883...
I know what you mean, though Elijah was only half a vinyl side, compared to other solo-filled tracks like Love('s Revelation track on Da Capo, 8MH (Golden Earring) or VF's Break Song on Near The Beginning lengthy tracks.
On top of it, indeed, the better version is the alternate one, present on the remastered albums...
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
If I have to leave my chair to move the needle (in the old days of album) or press skip (in the CD days) then I am more likely not to put that CD on. If I don't listen to any songs, because I don't want to hear one of the tracks, then it ruins that album. I get in the digital age you simply don't put that song on your iPOD, but when talking about choosing to listen to something, the above songs have made me not put the album (or CD) on at all.
I kind of agree but then again, this never stopped from listening to SEBTP and Rainbow Rising or even ITLOG&P (Love To Love You)... Fortunately, all three had the bad track placed at the end of the album side (or at the start (Dreamer from Crime OT Century).
This meant getting up sooner and lifting the stylus away instead of waiting for it to return to point zero... it was actually more of a bother with the CD, where I had to keep the remote control close to me
I wouldn't go that far, because there are plenty of albums with one clunker, and if I were to follow your train of thoughts, I'd have never listened to plenty of otherwise great albumIf I don't listen to any songs, because I don't want to hear one of the tracks, then it ruins that album.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
Led Zeppelin- III Hats of to Harper
Definitely the weakest link on the album. There must be a better way to pay tribute to the guy than this. I also don't really care much for "since I've been loving you" but that's still a bit better than HotH which I think is total dreck and I'm someone who's pretty tolerant of a lot of music many people don't like.
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