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    Don't think I'll be getting the 2016 version. I have 3 versions already, and like many here, I've been on a hunt to find the best sounding one. I have the original Atlantic release and Rhino release from 1996. I feel both of those versions sound very harsh, at least to my ears. I had just about given up....until I got the 2001 version on Sony Legacy. Wow!!! That version sounds terrific! Plus it has 3 bonus tracks: Brain Salad Surgery, When the Apple Blossoms Bloom..., and Excerpts From Brain Salad Surgery. If you can still find this version at a reasonable price, get it. I think you'll be very satisfied with the sound.
    So much music....so little time....

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    I probably have about a half-dozen or more versions of this. Even that first Rhino CD pressing which I never opened, but it has that really cool lenticular cover.

    Nothing really recent though. I gave up on them at least 10 years ago. I'd probably just want something really definitive that sounds great released within the last 15 years or so. Knowing how this works I doubt there is just ONE out there.

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    Brain Salad Surgery, my absolute favourite ELP album, turned 50 today! I wrote a review of the album: https://pienemmatpurot.com/review-em...-surgery-1973/
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    Fifty years! My older brother bought this, probably on or immediately after its initial release. I enjoyed your review. I remember being fascinated, as a 15-year-old, with the third impression and its computer-human finale (now generally referred to as the singularity).

    It's also my favorite ELP album and remains one of my all-time favorites. Do you have a favorite/definitive release of this album? I've never been wholly pleased with the recording and was hugely disappointed when Steven Wilson left the ELP remix project after Tarkus. Jakszyk's remix was a bit too messed up for me. I tend to listen to the Rhino 2000 DVD-Audio stereo version (fold-down from surround?) most often.

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    I suppose it's my favorite as well, because 2 songs from this album were played in English class and that made me interested in Emerson Lake & Palmer. Because I liked it, I bought Wellcome back my friends... This was the only album by them that was available in a store where I lived and it had Jerusalem and Karn Evil no. 9, the songs I heard at school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcrimso View Post
    Brain Salad Surgery, my absolute favourite ELP album, turned 50 today! I wrote a review of the album: https://pienemmatpurot.com/review-em...-surgery-1973/
    I enjoyed reading your review of ELP's classic Brain Salad Surgery. It's a perfect way to mark the albums' 50th Anniversary today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefftiger View Post

    It's also my favorite ELP album and remains one of my all-time favorites. Do you have a favorite/definitive release of this album? I've never been wholly pleased with the recording and was hugely disappointed when Steven Wilson left the ELP remix project after Tarkus. Jakszyk's remix was a bit too messed up for me. I tend to listen to the Rhino 2000 DVD-Audio stereo version (fold-down from surround?) most often.
    Love BBS. It would be my #1 if the production would have been as good as Trilogy. Altough I like Benny, I would have swapped it for When The Apple Blossom... and then we would have gotten a 6 stars out of 5 album

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefftiger View Post
    Fifty years! My older brother bought this, probably on or immediately after its initial release. I enjoyed your review. I remember being fascinated, as a 15-year-old, with the third impression and its computer-human finale (now generally referred to as the singularity).

    It's also my favorite ELP album and remains one of my all-time favorites. Do you have a favorite/definitive release of this album? I've never been wholly pleased with the recording and was hugely disappointed when Steven Wilson left the ELP remix project after Tarkus. Jakszyk's remix was a bit too messed up for me. I tend to listen to the Rhino 2000 DVD-Audio stereo version (fold-down from surround?) most often.
    Which release had Jakszyk’s remix? That was the same series with Wislon’s two remixed editions? Anyone know what version (remaster?) is in the large ELP box set?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    I suppose it's my favorite as well, because 2 songs from this album were played in English class and that made me interested in Emerson Lake & Palmer. Because I liked it, I bought Wellcome back my friends... This was the only album by them that was available in a store where I lived and it had Jerusalem and Karn Evil no. 9, the songs I heard at school.
    We should compile a list of all the Prog we know was played in English classes. A friend and I played the Cask of Amontillado from the Alan Parsons album for an English class in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starless and bible black View Post
    I enjoyed reading your review of ELP's classic Brain Salad Surgery. It's a perfect way to mark the albums' 50th Anniversary today.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post

    We should compile a list of all the Prog we know was played in English classes. A friend and I played the Cask of Amontillado from the Alan Parsons album for an English class in high school.
    I myself encountered Yes's "Don' Kill The Whales" in English class. There was also an interview with Steve Howe. What made it interesting was that I was already a Yes fan at that point, but I hadn't heard Tormato before.

    Ps. This was in the mid 90's so there wasn't a really trendy sound on the tapes!
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    We should compile a list of all the Prog we know was played in English classes. A friend and I played the Cask of Amontillado from the Alan Parsons album for an English class in high school.
    We had a math teacher, who looked like John Lennon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Which release had Jakszyk’s remix? That was the same series with Wislon’s two remixed editions? Anyone know what version (remaster?) is in the large ELP box set?
    Yes, the Jakszyk remixes of Trilogy and BSS were in the same series (Sony-released) as the first two remixes by Wilson. There are so many remasters/reissues of the ELP catalog, that I'm not certain which "large" box set you're referring to! If it's the Fanfare box, I looked up its contents online (I don't own it). It appears that the BSS remaster (labeled as 2014) is the Andy Pearce version from the Sony deluxe release, which also featured the Jakszyk remix. The Fanfare box also has a Bluray audio disc with all four of the remixes and bonus tracks from Wilson and Jakszyk (ELP, Tarkus, Trilogy, and BSS), including the infamous "Unknown Balad" from Tarkus, which was later identified as performed by the group Spontaneous Combustion (https://en.everybodywiki.com/Unknown_Ballad).

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    I was looking at some of the references in the Unknown Balad wiki article that I referenced above. There was a Carl Palmer interview from 2014 called "Tank for the Memories" (https://recordcollectormag.com/artic...r-the-memories).

    A noteable quote from the interview is:

    "(Interviewer) Are you happy with the way that ELP reissues have been presented?

    (Palmer) Not really. There was a time when people thought that it was a good idea to remix Brain Salad Surgery – that was a disaster. Then they wanted to bring in Porcupine Tree’s Steven Wilson. You have to understand that this music was already great before he got to it. So it was a ploy by the record company to put a modern-day name on it and see if they could pick up some more fans. I don’t think the job was exceptional; the music was great anyway."

    This reinforces my memory that Palmer was never thrilled with the remix series. While Lake had a few positive things to say about the remixes, I don't think that Emerson was really involved. It's no wonder that Wilson left after Tarkus.

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    The early 70's ELP is still my favorite among prog bands at that time, but I've never found a digital version of BSS that I truly loved. I've still got the vinyl I bought around 1977 when I was young enough to have a paper route! Should I listen to the Jakko remix?

    Enjoyed reading your review Kcrimso!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquatarkus View Post
    The early 70's ELP is still my favorite among prog bands at that time, but I've never found a digital version of BSS that I truly loved. I've still got the vinyl I bought around 1977 when I was young enough to have a paper route! Should I listen to the Jakko remix?

    Enjoyed reading your review Kcrimso!
    Thanks! I appreciate that!
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