Project X - Heaven and Earth

[progman1975]

What do my fellow Crim heads think of this??

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[notallwhowander]

I dig it when I'm in the mood for something ProjeKcty.

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[chalkpie]

What do my fellow Crim heads think of this??

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I don't spin it on the regular but I dig it quite a bunch. There is some really, really hip forward-thinking shit on there. A big winner imo.

[MudShark22]

Its better than the studio TCoL (coz all TCoL tunz were better live and on Heavy ConstruKction).

Certain a more focused projeKcty effort. Thumbs up in Casa MudShark

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[NogbadTheBad]

I like it a lot, its one of the better Projekct albums.

[progman1975]

Is Heavy ConstruKction better than Live Warsaw '00??

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[bondegezou]

Its better than the studio TCoL

Agreed. The last good Crimson album to my ears.

Henry

[zravkapt]

Its better than the studio TCoL

Indeed, H&E should have been the new KC album. I loved the ProjecKcts but was disappointed that they didn't continue with that sound, instead trying to revive the Red and Discipline eras.

[polmico]

I like it a lot, its one of the better Projekct albums.

The best is P3 Alexandra, VA 2003. Sick Belew on the Crim tour and the rest of the band went on without him.

Is Heavy ConstruKction better than Live Warsaw '00??

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Yes. A full disc of improvs. Rest of the set is about the same. I prefer everything from the '03 tour anyway. Saw 'me both, too.

[NogbadTheBad]

The best is P3 Alexandra, VA 2003. Sick Belew on the Crim tour and the rest of the band went on without him.

For some reason I've never gotten round to buying this one.

[polmico]

For some reason I've never gotten round to buying this one.

Every time there's a ProjeKct thread on this site, for at least the past five years, I mention this one. Come on, man. What are you waiting for?

[NogbadTheBad]

Every time there's a ProjeKct thread on this site, for at least the past five years, I mention this one. Come on, man. What are you waiting for?

Ok, you convinced me

[MudShark22]

Just for the record, the TCoL compositions are all head crushers. The issue is the TCoL tunez were not 'played in' on the road before recording, IMO.

Compare that to TPtB where we have multi-leg excursions/tours where the material was road tested.

I don't recall at the moment what shows they were from, but both the Frakctured and LTIA 4 w/ vocal coda from Heavy ConstruKction still send shivers down my spine.

I have seen at least one show in NYC of every Krim outing since Thrak tour (and usually more than one). I still believe that the Level 5 tour (just after 9/11) was the best Krim tour since Discipline.

[notallwhowander]

Just for the record, the TCoL compositions are all head crushers. The issue is the TCoL tunez were not 'played in' on the road before recording, IMO.

Absolutely agree here.

[Dave (in MA)]

I'd like TCOL a lot more with production quality more along the lines of HWWYHTBHW and TPTB

[TheLongshot]

The best is P3 Alexandra, VA 2003. Sick Belew on the Crim tour and the rest of the band went on without him.

Heh. I was at that show. It certainly was special for that reason.

[Nijinsky Hind]

I'd like TCOL a lot more with production quality more along the lines of HWWYHTBHW and TPTB

I thought the same until someone told me that real drums would have helped the sound quality. I think pat used all v drums

[MudShark22]

Yes...p@t managed to convince RF after the TCoL tour to allow him to set up his kit with some acoustic drums/percussion.



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[bondegezou]

I still believe that the Level 5 tour (just after 9/11) was the best Krim tour since Discipline.

Damning with faint praise?

Henry

[chalkpie]

I thought the same until someone told me that real drums would have helped the sound quality. I think pat used all v drums

I think he used a real snare in 2003, which made all the difference (at least to my ears). TCoL also has some weird compression on it, but fuck it, I still like it a lot from time to time. Wanna know how good it is? Listen to my wife's music for about 2 hours, and then put on TCoL - it'll sound better than Close to the Fudge and Sgt. Pepper combined.

[polmico]

I think he used a real snare in 2003, which made all the difference (at least to my ears).

I think this is a pic from '03, and if it's not, it gives you a good idea of Mastelotto's set up:

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Regular kit with a lot of electronics. On the gear page of his website, he explains that he no longer tours with a kit. He borrows or loans whatever he can get. It's all the electronics and stuff that he carts around on tour.

[Haruspex Carnage]

i really wish there was footage of any ProjeKcts live...alas it doesn't look so.

[MudShark22]

Damning with faint praise?

Henry

Not really, I have a lot of praise for all Krim tours since Discipline.

Its more like saying the Lamborghini Gallardo is my fave Lambo since the Countach. Its still a Lamborghini.

[Nijinsky Hind]

I think this is a pic from '03, and if it's not, it gives you a good idea of Mastelotto's set up:

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Regular kit with a lot of electronics. On the gear page of his website, he explains that he no longer tours with a kit. He borrows or loans whatever he can get. It's all the electronics and stuff that he carts around on tour.

Too much of a good thing on TCoL? The CD has no acoustics or air IMO. Heavy Construkction is my "go to" TCoL. But we have all talked about this before. Project X has bones but irritates with it's patchiness. Rarely play it.

[notallwhowander]

I have a hard time listening to TCoL in one go because of the "airless" quality. I prefer the versions on the Level 5 and Happy... EPs.