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Looks like after the campy Vincent Price flick, we get the 1963 Haunting. We'll DVR it and watch it tomorrow. Alone, in the dahhk.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
TCM just showed a promo of an upcoming limited theatrical release of the original uncut (??!!) "Psycho," they way Hitchcock wanted it.
What's that all about?
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Here's another interesting nugget. The guest (an author) who helped introduce Dracula on TCM tonight was telling the story about Chaney being wanted by Tod Browning to play Dracula, but was dying from cancer at the time. Many know that story. But, he mentioned that, after Chaney was unavailable, they were looking at character actors nd mentioned that Paul Muni was one of the considerations. Now, wouldn't THAT be interesting to see?
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Watching it right now. I love this movie.
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Oh that sounds good.
Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
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I've seen at least three versions and never realized it until now. The first was on TV when I was a kid and it was the censored version, with the shot of Janet Leigh taking her bra off having been cut. I've also seen the uncut version. Don't remember when but I do remember thinking at the time that it appeared slightly unnatural how she subtly handles the bra before she showed too much breast. And then I've seen a version where a few frames were snipped from the uncut version to avoid the appearance of "side boob".
According to comments I read online, the supposed US version is what is on DVD/BluRay. If anyone has it, check the peeping tom scene and let us know which version is on there.
As for the scene of Martin Balsam being killed, I really can't remember which version I've seen.
Apparently, Universal hasn't - or won't - release the uncut version for the US.
According to Wikipedia, "A version with alternate footage of Norman cleaning up after the murder and Marion undressing and Arbogast's death has been shown on German TV and released on VHS and Blu-ray in Germany. This footage was cut out of the film after it had been approved by the MPAA, at the insistence of the National Legion of Decency."
Also, due to different decency laws around the world, there are quite a few different versions, depending on the cuts demanded by each country. Apparently, in some European countries, the peeping Tom scene was left intact but the shower scene and the scene of the murder of Martin Balsam were edited to make them less violent.
TCM's runtime of 1h 49m is the same as Wikipedia's and Leonard Maltin's movie guide. The "uncut" version would add only a few seconds. Why Fathom Events is listing it at 2 hours is strange, to say the least, unless they have some documentarian explaining the difference and/or giving some history to it.
Some people commenting on YouTube say the differences are negligible. On that I completely disagree.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
Precisely why I didn't bother.
What I have found puzzling is that they always insist that Janet Leigh was never shown nude. Yet, there she is right before she grabs the shower curtain and falls down. Granted, it's blurred, but it's also distinct enough to see that it's not a body suit.
1:50 mark. Sure, it's brief, but there they are.
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She wasn't.What I have found puzzling is that they always insist that Janet Leigh was never shown nude.
“At the time,” Janet detailed, “there was still the ‘Hays Code,’ which was a censorship program. It was not possible to really show what you’ve got. The fact that I was in the opening scene in a half-slip and half-bra almost caused them to go crazy. So when the shower scene was done, I wore moleskin over my vital parts. And as much as you think you saw something, you never saw anything, because you could not show it back then. It was literally against the law. Now, I’ll tell you when they did use a nude model: when Norman goes into the bathroom at the end of all this and drags the body out wrapped in the shower curtain. That’s the only time I knew of a nude model. But, again, with me you don’t see anything. A bellybutton, and, because the cutting was so fast and accompanied by that music, you’re, like, ‘By God, I saw her nude.'”
I was going to say "there's one shot where, if you look closely, you can see the top edge of what looks like a skin toned, strapless bra." I just looked at the scene again in slow motion (before I found that quote from Leigh) and I didn't see it. I must be confusing it with another movie, but I would've sworn it was in Psycho. Regardless, the full shots you see of Leigh are out of focus so you don't see the detail of her wearing the moleskin over her "vital parts". And if you look real closely at the scene you mention, there appears to be a very subtle difference in the color of the skin of her back. Indeed, it appears like a line that extends from under her right arm and across her upper back, which I never noticed before. Or maybe not. Maybe it's the power of suggestion. I don't know. But, I have no reason to doubt her.Yet, there she is right before she grabs the shower curtain and falls down. Granted, it's blurred, but it's also distinct enough to see that it's not a body suit.
Here's another quote from the same article regarding the long shot of her eye/face after she collapses - which, imo, is the greatest shot in the history of cinema. I came to believe it was a still:
“That is not true,” she says. “About three weeks before we shot it, Mr. Hitchcock and I went off to the optometrists. He wanted me to put in those lenses that would give me a scary look. At the time — remember, we’re talking late 1959/early 1960 — for me to wear those lenses would’ve taken six weeks for my eyes to get used to them. And if I didn’t, it could have damaged my eyes. Mr. Hitchcock said, ‘Well, you can’t do that.’ I said, ‘No, we can’t,’ and he replied, ‘You’re just going to have to do it on your own.’ So I held that look. It’s not a photograph, goddamnit!” She broke into a smile. “I will say it wasn’t easy.”
BTW, did you know that that scene gave her a phobia and that she never took another shower? I think I first heard that from her daughter, Jamie Lee.
“I stopped taking showers and I only take baths,” she said without humor. “And when I’m someplace where I can only take a bath, I make sure the doors and windows of the house are locked. I also leave the bathroom door open and shower curtain open. I’m always facing the door, watching, no matter where the shower head is.”
Here's the full article if you want to read it: https://www.womansworld.com/posts/en...-psycho-154863
Also, that $40,000 she stole? It's the equivalent to almost $350,000 today.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
^^ I don't want to dwell on it, or offend any of the ladies who might be participating in this thread, but it does not look like a body suit to me, unless they painted certain "details" on them. And, yes, her "mammalian protuberances" look lighter, as though they don't get as much sun, which seems natural to me.
Sorry, ladies.
(Apologies to Frank Zappa, too.)
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Buster Keaton on all evening on TCM tomorrow.
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Watching, Dark Passage. I think they could have cleaned up the sound track a bit. Fizzy. BTW, Bette Davis is great in this film as always.
The older I get, the better I was.
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“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
We watched the first two fright night films last night. The Ghoul actually had a decent plot but the print they had was really dark and the ending kind of fizzles. The one that came after that was a giant load of horseshit. I guess having Tor Johnson in the cast should have tipped me off.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
I was just checking TCM's schedule and ran across something I have to recommend: Hannah and Her Sisters, tomorrow morning at 4am. If you like Woody Allen's post-Love and Death comedies (e.g. Annie Hall, Manhattan, et al) and haven't seen Hannah, record it, watch it, and thank me later. Aside from being both dramatic and comedic, it also exudes an emotional warmth you rarely see in his movies. I think it's his best one.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
TCM has, The Bad Seed, this afternoon. Wonder which ending it will have.
The older I get, the better I was.
Damn, the closest thing we will have to the classic movie monsters this month on TCM is Creature of the Black Lagoon (meh). I guess the classics have all migrated to the Peacock streaming service. I don't want to pay for another fucking streaming service.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
TCM is definitely a bit uneven with their Friday night horror movie choices for October. However, they still show the good ones. And there are a bunch of Hammer flicks, although at shitty times. Halloween day has a lot of good ones. But, yes, too many B movies.
But, I don't think you need to worry about signing up for streaming just yet.
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Some of Peacock is free but a significant amount is behind a paywall.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
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