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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    You should offer a $100 NDR Jazz Workshop/Switzerland 1974 bundle that comes with a Karl Jenkins wig.
    I think a Mike Ratledge wig with the side pieces of his glasses on the outside of the hair is a more sellable option.

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    edit: I should probably admit that I did shell out for the manhole cover ZINY, but I'm not going to admit it in full-sized text.
    I laughed out loud at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    I think a Mike Ratledge wig with the side pieces of his glasses on the outside of the hair is a more sellable option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    This is so embarrassing. They must think Zappa fans are ten years old. And it looks like it may be an even bigger waste of precious shelf space than the last Halloween mask production, thanks to the inclusion of a pair of plastic hands. The music is going to be great. Sell us the music.
    Amen.

    I'm still going to buy it, but with a little more sadness than I should have at such a set.
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    I don't see why they can't also release a set with just the CDs, which is all I want. Anyone who wants the full set with the silly extras would still be free to buy that one instead.
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    We’re all going to buy it, right? I mean. Come on. So let’s do this.

    When we order from Wayside, we’ll ask Steve F. to send us the discs and the booklet and, like, some sleeves, and he can keep the rest of the shit. Now that’d be some goddamn customer service!

    And all of those masks and shit? Wayside could open one of those Halloween shops that pop in abandoned Dollar Trees every October.

    Win fucking win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    I don't see why they can't also release a set with just the CDs, which is all I want. Anyone who wants the full set with the silly extras would still be free to buy that one instead.
    Your solution is too simple. It will never work.
    No humor please, we're skittish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polmico View Post
    We’re all going to buy it, right? I mean. Come on. So let’s do this.

    When we order from Wayside, we’ll ask Steve F. to send us the discs and the booklet and, like, some sleeves, and he can keep the rest of the shit. Now that’d be some goddamn customer service!

    And all of those masks and shit? Wayside could open one of those Halloween shops that pop in abandoned Dollar Trees every October.

    Win fucking win.


    My Mother told me if I kept up with the path I was following, that I’d end up in an abandoned Dollar Tree....I’m sorry I didn’t listen, Mom!!!
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    I am a big Zappa fan, I have most vinyls until 'Sheik YB', I have bought everything ( mostly) on Ryko when it was firsr released on CD, I have rebought most of the 2012 remasters , I have bought some of the post releases ...I stopped completely listening to music in transport due to a problem with my inner ear. I had to wear ear plug filters and even now I just keep the filters to blend out the noise and stupid conversations. Anyway, nowadays my favourite (and often only) music moment is about 20 minutes in the morning when I am ironing a shirt and prepare stuff for the day. I listen often to one side of a vinyl , mostly favourite records (quite often Zappa) and I am less and less interested in another boxset with unreleased concerts/ demos/ runthroughs...of my favourite artists. So I'll get probably the Orchestral Favourites ....
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    Not quite so excited now that I see the price, lol. Anyway, I thought this was cool:

    Just sitting at home rocking back and forth and jealously caressing my invisible collection of theoretical assets.

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    Black Friday RSD release: 10" picture disc of "Peaches En Regalia" and "Little Umbrellas" ("mono single masters" on one side, "rhythm track mixes" on the other). Hoping (and expecting) this is a teaser for a Hot Rats anniversary release.

    https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/11832

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    Hot rats sessions boxset : december !

    info TBC

    Disc 1
    Basic Track Recording Sessions TTG Studios, Hollywood, CA 7-18-69
    Piano Music (Section 1) 2:13
    This is Take 8, an alternate performance of what became known as “Piano Intro to Little House I Used To Live In” found on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich".
    Piano Music (Section 3) 5:42
    Contains the theme from “Peaches En Regalia”, and the Master Take of “Aybe Sea” (Burnt Weeny Sandwich)

    7-28-69
    Peaches En Regalia (Prototype) 5:57
    Peaches En Regalia (Section 1, In Session) 10:49
    Peaches En Regalia (Section 1, Master Take) 2:05
    Peaches Jam - Part 1 6:28
    Peaches Jam - Part 2 10:30
    Peaches En Regalia (Section 3, In Session) 6:57
    Peaches En Regalia (Section 3, Master Take) 2:07
    Arabesque (In Session) 7:01
    Arabesque (Master Take) 6:57
    Released in edited form as “Toads Of The Short Forest” on "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" in 1970
    Dame Margret's Son To Be A Bride (In Session) 4:30
    This song was re-recorded on 7-30-69 and eventually repurposed as "Lemme Take You To The Beach" first issued on "Studio Tan" in 1978

    Disc 2
    7-29-69 Basic Track Sessions
    It Must Be A Camel (Part 1, In Session) 8:22
    It Must Be a Camel (Part 1, Master Take) 2:17
    It Must Be a Camel (Intercut, In Session) 3:53
    It Must Be a Camel (Intercut, Master Take) 4:02
    Natasha (In Session) 4:04
    Natasha (Master Take) 3:12 Released as “Little Umbrellas” on "Hot Rats" in 1969.
    Bognor Regis (Unedited Master) 10:59
    Unreleased Track. Frank re-worked this track over the years, using it as the basics for an early version of "Conehead". In the process, he erased original source material. This mix reflects what survived along with some crafty insertion from a vintage 2-track mix for completion.
    Willie The Pimp (In Session) 2:20
    Willie The Pimp (Unedited Master Take) 15:14
    Willie The Pimp (Guitar OD 1) 14:46 Labeled "Scrambler & Wah-Wah"
    Willie The Pimp (Guitar OD 2) 6:18

    Disc 3
    Basic Track Sessions 7-29-69
    Transition (Section 1 - In Session) 6:17
    Transition (Section 1 - Master Take) 2:25
    Transition (Section 2 - Intercut - In Session) 1:50
    Transition (Section 2 - Intercut - Master Take) 2:43
    Transition (Section 3 - Intercut - In Session) 2:29
    Transition (Section 3 - Intercut - Master Take) 2:13
    Released in edited form as “Twenty Small Cigars” on "Chunga’s Revenge" in 1970.
    Lil’ Clanton Shuffle (Unedited Master) 12:46
    Re-mixed and released in edited form on "The Lost Episodes" in 1998

    7-30-69 Basic Track Sessions
    Directly From My Heart To You (Unedited Master) 10:18
    Released in edited form on “Weasels Ripped My Flesh” in 1970
    Another Waltz (Unedited Master) 27:56
    Portions released in edited form as “Little House I Used To Live In” on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" in 1970.

    Disc 4
    Basic Track Sessions 7-30-69
    Dame Margret’s Son To Be A Bride (Remake) 3:54
    Eventually utilized for "Lemme Take You To The Beach" on "Studio Tan" in 1978
    Because of this song getting repurposed later, original tracks were wiped by FZ in favor of new ones. All that's left is the original bass & drums.

    Son Of Mr. Green Genes (Take 1) 8:16
    Son Of Mr. Green Genes (Master Take) 10:47
    Big Legs (Unedited Master Take) 32:42
    Released in edited form as "The Gumbo Variations" on "Hot Rats" in 1969
    It Must Be a Camel (Percussion Tracks) 1:48
    Percussion overdubs recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969
    Arabesque (Guitar OD Mix) 6:57
    Guitar Overdubs recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969
    Released in edited form as “Toads Of The Short Forest” on "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" in 1970
    Transition (Full Version) 6:22
    Guitar Overdubs recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969
    Released in edited form as “Twenty Small Cigars” on "Chunga’s Revenge" in 1970.
    Piano Music (Section 3 - OD Version) 5:41
    Overdubs recorded at TTG Studios, 7-21-69
    Contains the theme from “Peaches En Regalia”, and the Master Take of “Aybe Sea” released on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" in 1969.

    Disc 5
    From The Vault - Part 1
    Hot Rats
    1987 Digital Re-Mix

    Re-Mixed from the original multi-track masters with added material from the original sessions

    Peaches En Regalia 3:39
    Willie The Pimp 9:17
    Son Of Mr. Green Genes 9:00
    Little Umbrellas 3:04
    The Gumbo Variations 16:57
    It Must Be A Camel 5:15

    The Origin Of Hot Rats :35 1987- FZ with Peter Occhiogrosso
    Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #1 1:02
    Peaches En Regalia (Mono Single Master) 3:32 1969 Mono Mix
    Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #2 1:01
    Little Umbrellas (1969 Mono Single Master) 3:05
    Lil' Clanton Shuffle (1972 Whitney Studios Mix) 12:42

    Disc 6
    From The Vault - Part 2
    Little Umbrellas (Cucamonga Version) 2:00 Recorded at Studio Z; Cucamonga, CA circa 1961-1964
    Little Umbrellas (1969 Mix Outtake) 3:10
    It Must Be A Camel (1969 Mix Outtake) 5:23
    Son Of Mr. Green Genes (1969 Mix Outtake) 10:39
    More Of The Story Of Willie The Pimp 1:24 Voices: FZ, Annie Zannus & Cynthia Dobson
    Willie The Pimp (Vocal Tracks) 2:07

    7-29-69 TTG Studios; Hollywood, CA
    Willie The Pimp (1969 Quick Mix) 14:29
    Dame Margret's Son To Be A Bride (1969 Quick Mix) 3:46
    Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #3 :52
    Bognor Regis (1970 Record Plant Mix) 8:11
    Peaches En Regalia (1969 Rhythm Track Mix) 4:24
    Son Of Mr. Green Genes (1969 Rhythm Track Mix) 10:40
    Little Umbrellas (1969 Rhythm Track Mix) 3:11
    Arabesque (Guitar Tracks) 6:57
    Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #4 :59

    Guitar: FZ
    Piano: Ian Underwood
    Bass: John Balkin, Shuggy Otis, Roy Estrada, Max Bennett
    Drums: Art Tripp III, Ron Selico, Jimmy Carl Black, John Guerin, Paul Humphrey
    Trumpet: Buzz Gardner
    Sax: Bunk Gardner
    Voice: Captain Beefheart
    Violin: Don “Sugarcane” Harris
    Tack Piano: Johnny Otis
    Piano, Organ: Don Preston
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    I only like old Zappa. Before everyone else got into him.

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    They're not inflating the price by including crocheted red and grey leg warmers and frizzy wig?

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    OMG, how am I going to explain to my wife that I need that Hot Rats set when she already roasted me for pre-ordering the Halloween set?

    I mean, either way, it will be mine... just asking.
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    Where on zappa.com is mention of the Hot Rats box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by walt View Post
    Where on zappa.com is mention of the Hot Rats box?
    It was prominently displayed at zappa.com, you couldn't miss it, but it's taken down.
    https://store.zappa.com/the-hot-rats...-preorder.html

    They followed the same announcement process that they used for Orchestral Favorites:
    1. Put up the announcement page to get everybody all excited, people start passing around the link
    2. Take the page down because they screwed something up
    3. Put it back up with the corrected info

    They've only done 1 and 2 so far.

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    Woo, and indeed, Hoo. This is more like it.

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    Still no credit for Lowell George ?

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    wow.

    That's an impressive collection for this one.
    No humor please, we're skittish.

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    Official announcement tomorrow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemeat View Post
    Official announcement tomorrow...
    From the Vaultmeister:
    Hello. As you know, "The Hot Rats Sessions" box set appeared in our store today. What you might not know is that this happened mistakenly. Our store partner made this error. “The Hot Rats Sessions” should have been announced tomorrow on the 50th anniversary of the release of "Hot Rats." Adding insult to injury, the store page included information from a work document that should never have been leaked. Rest assured we will announce as planned tomorrow, October 10th, and when you receive "The Hot Rats Sessions" box set, you will have all the correct information at your finger tips. Thanks for your understanding. Joe Travers, Vaultmeister

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Still no credit for Lowell George ?
    The session dates above are after he left the Mothers near the end of May 1969.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Still no credit for Lowell George ?
    Did he play on Hot Rats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Did he play on Hot Rats?
    He said he did. But Lowell could tell tall tales sometimes.

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    FWIW, there's a track on the Lowell George Lightning Rod Man album by the first Little Feat lineup plus Ian Underwood, recorded at TTG at the same time Zappa was recording Hot Rats there.

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