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    all awards shows have gone to hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dark Elf View Post
    2Shay, a French rapper.
    Hmm. Wasn't 2Shay shot by French rap producer Sucre Knight?
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    same guy who shot 2Shay Shakur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=RTFR666=- View Post
    same guy who shot 2Shay Shakur?
    Don't you mean the beer-drinking rapper from a Quaker sect, 6pac Shaker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dark Elf View Post
    Don't you mean the beer-drinking rapper from a Quaker sect, 6pac Shaker?
    Bonus points to the PEer who can work the Notorious B.I.G. into the schtick...

    "Music is like candy...just throw away the rappers..."
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    Has anyone heard the Jon Anderson/50 Cent gangsta collab, "Ma Woman Ho' Suxdix Nomo'"? It displays a tougher, somewhat more sinister and viciously violent side of Jon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Has anyone heard the Jon Anderson/50 Cent gangsta collab, "Ma Woman Ho' Suxdix Nomo'"? It displays a tougher, somewhat more sinister and viciously violent side of Jon.
    I thought Jon was scary enough in "The Gates Of Delirium". I don't think I can handle a more intense Jon than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Has anyone heard the Jon Anderson/50 Cent gangsta collab, "Ma Woman Ho' Suxdix Nomo'"? It displays a tougher, somewhat more sinister and viciously violent side of Jon.
    It sounds progressive !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    It sounds progressive !
    It's avant-prog hiphop with serious freakfolk and evil-extremetal snippets. There's a solo section featuring the sounds of 'Cent fighting Jon gangstally but with the latter kicking the shit out of the former by unique ballgrab technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miamiscot View Post
    The world has a rap problem.
    QFT. But this "music" is not going away. It's ingrained in the fabric of all popular music, all over the world. First time I heard Curtis Blow, or Sugar Hill, or whatever I couldn't stand it. Today I can listen to that stuff if it happens to be played on a jukebox. The stuff I get force-fed on jukeboxes today are just pure, manufactured crap. The rhythm/foundation is obviously synthesized. It's all bottom (bass drum), and programmed hi-hat triplets (not sure I'm describing it right). You won't hear a snare drum or a bass guitar (even a synthetic, programmed bass). And one wonders how anyone can like this stuff. Here's what I think it is. It's like people who really, only pay attention to lyrics, or melodies, or "hooks" in a pop song (when I say pop I mean everything, rock, R&B, country, etc.). Unlike some of us who actually listen to the rhythm section, the time sigs, the actual musicianship, we want to hear music played by musicians, not people "talking" over a computerized beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=RTFR666=- View Post
    Bonus points to the PEer who can work the Notorious B.I.G. into the schtick...

    "Music is like candy...just throw away the rappers..."
    Notorious B.I.G. Generator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    It's avant-prog hiphop with serious freakfolk and evil-extremetal snippets. There's a solo section featuring the sounds of 'Cent fighting Jon gangstally but with the latter kicking the shit out of the former by unique ballgrab technique.
    I call foul. No balls to grab.

    (Sorry, just had to go there....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Notorious B.I.G. Generator.
    dingdingding and we have a winnah! (all it takes is one...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I've never heard of him.
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    Of course you haven't.
    Was he Kid or Play?

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    Didn't Tupac join forces with the girls who sang "Push it" to create a rap super group called Salt N' Pepa Shakur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Was he Kid or Play?
    Kidrick 'n Playmar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    QFT. But this "music" is not going away.
    No, its not going away, but its not NEAR dominating the charts as it used to be. Definitely a LOT more actual singing in modern NU-RnB and Pop hitting the charts these days than it was 10 or 12 years ago...Even actual R&B and pop bands are starting to sprout up (Dirty Loops, The Internet, etc.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by -=RTFR666=- View Post
    dingdingding and we have a winnah! (all it takes is one...)
    Thank you, on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Thank you, on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition.
    You're welcome, now get offa my roof...
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    You're welcome, now get offa my roof...
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    Christ these kids are killing me with their bullshit hip hop. I got a couple Gov't Mule songs in the jukebox but they're having none of that. Back to Drake and 2 Live Crew. God I detest that shit with the intensity of a thousand suns. I hate hip hop. There, I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Christ these kids are killing me with their bullshit hip hop. I got a couple Gov't Mule songs in the jukebox but they're having none of that. Back to Drake and 2 Live Crew. God I detest that shit with the intensity of a thousand suns. I hate hip hop. There, I said it.
    My youngest likes all the new stuff and hip hop

    OTOH, my oldest, likes nuR&B and hip-hop too however she likes select songs by Yes, she likes Boston (that one I cant figure out), she likes Sweet, Duran Duran, The Beatles, and recently got into KISS,

    ......theres hope for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Christ these kids are killing me with their bullshit hip hop. I got a couple Gov't Mule songs in the jukebox but they're having none of that. Back to Drake and 2 Live Crew. God I detest that shit with the intensity of a thousand suns. I hate hip hop. There, I said it.
    2 Live Crew is soooooo 1990s Florida. Me so horny, indeed.
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    oh dear, all the usual prog snobbery comments about rap have raised their ugly heads again.

    I like quite a bit of rap.

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