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    FEATURED CD - Univers Zero : 1313



    Per Allmusic:
    Some very peculiar rock music hybrids emerged in the 1970s, but none was any more peculiar than Univers Zero, a classically influenced group of primarily Belgian musicians. Sometimes compared to the slightly earlier and enormously influential King Crimson, Univers Zero was actually much more extreme. While Crimson used Robert Fripp's lead guitar and Ian McDonald's Mellotron to approximate a symphonic rock sound rooted in the 19th century romantic tradition of Richard Strauss, Mahler and Wagner, the earliest versions of Univers Zero were not only more purely classical in their instrumentation (bassoon, violin, viola, cello, harmonium, spinet piano), but much more contemporary in their musical appropriation of the dissonant, jagged 20th century classical styles of Stravinsky, Bartók, Ligeti, and Penderecki, among others. The other constant and distinguishing quality of Univers Zero was the longtime preoccupation of drummer/leader Daniel Denis with the early 20th century fantasy/horror writer H.P. Lovecraft -- as indicated by the names of his two predecessor bands, Arkham (the mythical town where most of Lovecraft's stories were set) and Necronomicon (a mythical Lovecraft book of forbidden secrets). Some critics regard Univers Zero's music as pretentious and gloomy, but it's never pretentious in the easy, predictable manner of most progressive rock, and as for the gloom, there's actually a kind of jaunty gallows humor in many of the pieces on this debut -- particularly in the two by guitarist Roger Trigaux, which feature march rhythms somewhat suggestive of Shostakovich or Prokofiev. The rhythmic energy and dissonant riffs, the distinctive sound of the bassoon and strings, and the tricky, fragmented time signatures make for a challenging and highly distinctive listening experience.
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    Wonderful debut and one of my favorite albums by the band. Laid out the blueprint for the first five albums. Personally I prefer the next four but it's really good.
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    Another blind spot in my collection, I fear. Since none of the videos posted above are playable in Oh-So-Free Germany, I’m listening to the live version of Ronde (Nottingham, 1978) right now. Tormato it ain’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by at least 100 dead View Post
    Another blind spot in my collection, I fear. Since none of the videos posted above are playable in Oh-So-Free Germany, I’m listening to the live version of Ronde (Nottingham, 1978) right now. Tormato it ain’t.
    It's the same here.

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    Funny enough, I had this one in the car for a while, and my kids (ages 6 and 10) gave it a thumbs up. They liked the "crazy drums that do whatever they want".

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    My favorite Univers Zero record. So good.
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    Great debut album! I don’t like it as much as Ceux du dehors (where I think they perfected this early approach), UZED or even Heatwave, but I do find it superior to the quite overrated Heresie (sophomore slump, if you ask me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progbear View Post
    I do find it superior to the quite overrated Heresie (sophomore slump, if you ask me).
    Have you listened to the 2010 remix? That really brings out the power in what I also used to think of as a slightly (but only slightly) weaker album, and gives it some serious vibe.

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    The 2010 remix is excellent.
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    Cool album, but dark, dark ,dark all the way thru.

    They became more diverse with each subsequent release..., but I love everything by UZ.
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    I rank it third after Ceux du dehors and Uzed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    Funny enough, I had this one in the car for a while, and my kids (ages 6 and 10) gave it a thumbs up. They liked the "crazy drums that do whatever they want".
    I see you are properly fathering your children. Good to see in these dark times

    Great stuff. quite unique when it came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
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    Not my favourite but a terrific album nonetheless.
    They had the whole sound locked down from the debut.

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    Although there's the odd distant information from Zappa/Mothers, Third Ear Band, Soft Machine and HCow, this is about as unique a debut as would ever appear within purported "rock" music.

    I remember getting that very scarce, early vinyl reprint (from 1978) back in 1994, only having read and heard about the group - and along with discovering the rest of the original Rock-In-Opposition catalog it pretty much singlehandedly altered my impressions of the very possibilities of actual 'progressive' rock. I still think that middle section plus fallback part in "Docteur Petiot" is one of the most chilling moments of tune I ever encountered. Shit, who ever knew the harmonium could generate such a tremendously uncanny sound!?

    I even think it's a littubittu 'better than Anathema', but y'know - that's only me. :dgtest
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    I rank it third after Ceux du dehors and Uzed.
    I can't rank the rest but for me Ceux du Dehors is their best, however 1313 is a great one.

    I don't think either are "Rock" progressive or otherwise - I find these labels rather arbitrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progbear View Post
    but I do find it superior to the quite overrated Heresie (sophomore slump, if you ask me).
    Ugh, I think my heart just seized up. One of my top albums of all time.

    I quite like the debut also.

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    A nice debut.

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    Pretty fantastic debut. Still gets plenty of air time around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    I rank it third after Ceux du dehors and Uzed.
    Same here. Still a pretty incredible album. It's hard to go wrong with any of the early UZ.

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    This is such a great album. The first of a string of great ones to come. I've not heard the recent remix yet.

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    I have a soft spot for Heatwave since it is the first one I heard and bought shortly after it came out.

    I'm glad I didn't hear the debut first. It's a bit too stark for me. Ceux Du Dehors and Uzed are more rich sounding and full for their early period, but I still prefer their Heatwave thru Implosion series of albums.
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Yeah, this is sadly missing from my collection....need to rectify that soon.

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