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    Female proggy-AOR & proggy-New Wave

    I've noticed on this forum that, apart from Kate Bush, female proggy-AOR & proggy-New Wave artists rarely, if ever, get mentioned.

    for example:
    Cher
    Toyah
    Bonny Tyler
    Hazel O'Connor

    For example, Cher's - "I Found Someone" in its soft metal-ish AOR-ness is as proggy if not proggier than anything on 90125. And proggier than most of the later output of Yes.




    This is one of my fav songs of all time.


    PLEASE NOTE: this thread is for AOR, light rock, new wave. AND NOT for obvious avantgarde artists like Lene Lovich, Nina Hagen, Diamanda Galas, Dagmar etc.
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    Thanks for that PB, she's a new name to me. I like it.

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    AOR ?

    Björk?
    If you go to the more jazzier artist there are a few
    Hiromi
    Anette Peacock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    If you go to the more jazzier artist there are a few
    Hiromi
    Anette Peacock
    Carla Bley

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    No. Bonnie Tyler is not and never was the slightest "proggy", not even to any imaginary extent. Cher? For goodness' sake.

    How about Linda Ronstadt? Johnny Cash's wife? Or Dame Edna?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    No. Bonnie Tyler is not and never was the slightest "proggy", not even to any imaginary extent. Cher? For goodness' sake.
    If you dont think that song by Cher is proggy then you clearly dont think that latter day Yes, Saga, Asia or Kansas are proggy either then.

    My point is that a lot of female pop artists are as proggy as the old prog bands that are still going

    Have you ever listened to an album by Bonny Tyler or Cher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    AOR ?

    Björk?
    Indeed, very prog at times, In fact, although she is often called indie-pop, I've always thought of Bjork as more avantgarde pop.

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    I still maintain that Doris Day invented Prog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    I still maintain that Doris Day invented Prog.
    No, this lady did:

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Have you ever listened to an album by Bonny Tyler or Cher?
    It's Bonnie Tyler - OK? In Norway there's a telling called "Norgesvenner" ("Friends of Norway") about foreign artists who maintain their stardom status here due to Norwegian cretins not yet having discovered the fact that those names no longer have the slightest following abroad. Examples are Tanita Tikaram (a cuppa UK hits in the late 80s), Nazareth, Dr. Hook, Village People, Manfred Mann's Earthband (who tour highland holiday hotels here), Smokie (yup, the ones with "Living Next Door to Alice") and not least Bonnie Tyler.

    So yes, I've had to hear her - even a whole "ablum". Not proggy, not too much else redeeming either. Give me Yoko full blown, just not Bonnie.
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    Hey SS, no one's forcing you to listen to her!

    And being 100% honest here, I'll listen to her any day of the week rather than Asia, Saga, or later Yes.

    As for Yoko, puhleeeze...I'd rather cut off my nuts with a rusty tin lid than listen to her! In fact, that's what she sounds like to me, a scremaing man having his nuts cut off with a rusty tin lid

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    As for Yoko, puhleeeze...I'd rather cut off my nuts with a rusty tin lid than listen to her! In fact, that's what she sounds like to me, a scremaing man having his nuts cut off with a rusty tin lid
    I'm that scremaing man clippin' off zum other scremaing man's nutz while covering "Oh, Yoko" in a cookie-monster fashion.
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    Why hasn't PE's Cher Filter detected this thread and squashed it immediately? What are our donations for if not for that?

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    How about Anja Garbarek??? I like her a lot. Proggy/progish but not AOR in the least. For female fronted prog or AOR try Esquire with the then Nikki Squire (was married to Chris) and Empire (Pete Banks and his lead vocal girlfriend).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    AOR ?

    Björk?
    If you go to the more jazzier artist there are a few
    Hiromi
    Anette Peacock
    I certainly wouldn't classify the sometimes brilliant Bjork in AOR.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    I certainly wouldn't classify the sometimes brilliant Bjork in AOR.
    But then again - who the hell would? Björk's status as one of the primary female avant-garde pop artists in Europe remains firm and established, so when the toss did AOR come into play here - even rhetorically?

    Btw, have you heard these two newwave proggals whip out some hot'n'fairly proggy newwave AOR?
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    was gonna say Nehl Aëlin...damn thread restrictions
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    Quote Originally Posted by proggosaurus View Post
    was gonna say Nehl Aëlin...damn thread restrictions
    Thank god for the thread restrictions, or they'd be listing every female that ever walked past a synthesizer.

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    Annie Lennox ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    Thank god for the thread restrictions, or they'd be listing every female that ever walked past a synthesizer.
    I kid, I kid....a thread can deteriorate oh so quickly around here. I do think Nehl could probably slip into the new wave category fairly easy though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    Thank god for the thread restrictions, or they'd be listing every female that ever walked past a synthesizer.
    I own a few synthesizers and every day I walk several times past one of them, an old semi-modular Roland.

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    Emilíana Torrini's "Love in the Time of Science" I think fits the bill. It was produced by Roland Orzabal and has many of the cinematic elements of Tears For Fears.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_i...ime_of_Science
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    I own a few synthesizers and every day I walk several times past one of them, an old semi-modular Roland.
    Hmmm,..well I'm surprised no one's listed you yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noisynoise View Post
    Emilíana Torrini's "Love in the Time of Science" I think fits the bill. It was produced by Roland Orzabal and has many of the cinematic elements of Tears For Fears.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_i...ime_of_Science
    well, I suppose it's alright to post Nehl's cover of a cover of Tears For Fears Mad World. if PeterG isn't okay with it, I'll remove it

    Nehl Aëlin - Mad World "live" (Donnie Darko version)

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