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    Some PIT facts:

    First-round picks:

    2013: None
    2014: Kapanen; (traded never played game for Pit)
    2015: None
    2016: None

    They currently have $3.5M in cap space, but only have 15 players on their roster.
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    Also, Glen Sather is stepping down as Rangers' GM. He'll be replaced by former assistant GM Jeff Gorton.
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    WTF happened to Mike Richards? The Kings have terminated his contract, right? Just tore it up? I can't think of this happening in a long time, if ever. Can someone point me to a link that explains what happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottersclub View Post
    WTF happened to Mike Richards? The Kings have terminated his contract, right? Just tore it up? I can't think of this happening in a long time, if ever. Can someone point me to a link that explains what happened?
    Apparently, he was caught trying to cross the Canadian border with Oxycodone.
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    Brandon Saad to Columbus in a multiplayer deal.
    Some interesting talk about this in Chicago. Brandon will get his money, lots of it, but apparently there's a hint of "fuck you too" from Stan Bowman in getting "banished" to Columbus. Original articles said Saad was "crushed" when informed of being a Blue Jacket, since revised to "surprised"!

    Hawks get Anisimov (who they promptly signed to a 5 year deal hoping for 2nd line center) and Dano, who may just be the next rising star.
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    Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally

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    ^ LMFAO!

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    Blues send TJ Oshie to the Caps for Troy Brower, a prospect, and a 2016 3rd rounder.

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    Couple of huge moves for the Caps. No doubt they're hoping that Williams can help them break through their annual playoff brickwall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oilersfan View Post
    Blues send TJ Oshie to the Caps for Troy Brower, a prospect, and a 2016 3rd rounder.
    They should have traded Hitchcock instead

    Not happy

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    Habs have made a move that has a lot of people here scratching their heads. A proven leader and fan favorite like Prust gone for a classic under-achiever who has a ton of the dreaded P-word: Potential. Bergevin has been fielding questions from the media and fans since it was announced.
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    Prust was a liability. This is addition by subtraction IMHO.
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    Prust cost more and was more and more susceptible to injury. This was a cap move, imo.
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    The latest head-scratcher in Boston has Reilly Smith (the principal return for Seguin two years ago) shipped to Florida for Jimmy Hayes.

    Also, Marty St. Louis announced his retirement yesterday. Somewhat surprising, he just turned 40 last month and could clearly still play.

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    You're probably right about St. Louis. If he had hung on until the end of the summer, I think someone looking for some offense would have signed him. Maybe he had had enough?
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    Maybe his retirement won't take? If a team closer to his home were to make him an offer, say Montreal or Ottawa?
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    The problem, for those of you scratching your heads about the Bruins' moves, was two fold; cap space and a too small pool of viable young players that could play roles on the team.

    Lucic and Smith's contracts were paralyzingly bad. Neither has been a consistent producer for the team, though both have had very good stretches. Hayes is a bargain compared to Smith, and he can be dealt far more easily if necessary. We also got rid of Savard's cap hit in that deal.

    The Bruins now have as much cap space as the Oilers, and can go get the D-man (or D-men) they need to fill the hole left by Hamilton's departure. As far as Hamilton, yeah, the B's didn't get value for him, but apparently he didn't want to be here. We could have gotten an offer sheet (from Edmonton), but why pay him big bucks if he's miserable being here? That one was tough, but so it goes.

    Sweeny has made some incredibly bold moves, and has largely rectified the reason Chiarelli got fired, getting us into such a mess vis-a-vis the cap. While the B's may not be that much better next season (and may indeed be worse), we're loaded with picks, and have a far larger pool of young talent to evaluate.

    I really wish Chiarelli the best, and value what he did with Boston in his tenure. But there were issues with his cap and contract management, and that seems to be happening again in Edmonton with some of the big money long-term deals he is inking. The B's decided that wasn't what the future is going to be. We'll see how it plays out, but other than the Hamilton deal (where Sweeny's hand was forced), no one in Boston is crying to see players like Lucic or Smith dealt. Eriksson may be next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottersclub View Post
    You're probably right about St. Louis. If he had hung on until the end of the summer, I think someone looking for some offense would have signed him. Maybe he had had enough?
    St Louis was awful in the playoffs. Was a step behind everyone...I think he's done for real.
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    So apparently the city that I live in, Markham, has officially completed an application for an expansion team. http://www.letsgoleafs.com/2015/07/0...for-expansion/

    It won't happen for a lot of reasons, but the biggest reason is that we don't have an NHL appropriate arena and, unless things have changed since April. There are no plans to build one.

    There were plans. Ground was supposed to be broken over a year ago. in 2013, the Mayor held a press conference to announce an agreement with a private investor that would mean that no tax money would be used to build it. The agreement was signed live, on TV. But then, only days later something went wrong and the city realized that they would need to contribute tax dollars. So council voted and they voted against it. Unless the private investor was willing to foot the entire bill...no arena. So I really don't understand the bid for a team...assuming this article is correct.

    Not that it matters. The NHL isn't going to award a team to compete with one of their most profitable (even if most losing) teams.

    My prediction, from the four in the article, are Las Vegas and Seattle. Although I think that Las Vegas would be a big mistake. When we were looking for NHL odds at several Sports Books in Vegas, the people there didn't even know what we were talking about. Maybe they can move the Coyotes to Vegas instead of expanding. Why add another team destined for trouble down the road?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn View Post
    Why add another team destined for trouble down the road?
    Because Bettman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Because Bettman?
    With all due respect, don't blame Bettman for the owners' greed. The expansion fee this time around is $500M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottersclub View Post
    With all due respect, don't blame Bettman for the owners' greed. The expansion fee this time around is $500M.
    You blame him for putting a team in a town where it's destined to fail.
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    Did you go to the Leafs game last night, Esther?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Did you go to the Leafs game last night, Esther?

    LOL! You know this is an error because the Leafs won.

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    Now things are getting serious!

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads

    Lamoriello resigns from Devils, becomes Leafs GM

    Lou Lamoriello resigned as president of the New Jersey Devils on Thursday in order to become the general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

    Lamoriello is the 16th general manager in Maple Leafs history. Maple Leafs president Brendan Shanahan was drafted by the Devils in 1987, the year Lamoriello took over as their president and general manager.

    Lamoriello spent 28 years with the Devils, all as the general manager, before he was succeeded by Ray Shero on May 4. When Lamoriello resigned as GM, he ended his run as the longest-serving GM for one team in NHL history.

    The Maple Leafs will have to send the Devils a third-round draft pick as compensation for Lamoriello, according to Sportsnet.

    "I have been fortunate to have worked for [Devils co-owners] Josh Harris and David Blitzer for the past two years," Lamoriello said in a statement released by the Devils. "In addition, the organization afforded me the opportunity to work for two other individuals that greatly impacted my life, Dr. John J. McMullen and George Steinbrenner. I have worked with Hall of Fame coaches, and players and a great staff, all of whom contributed to our success. In the end, it's about the people which makes this decision so difficult."

    Under Lamoriello's guidance, the Devils won the Stanley Cup three times (1995, 2000, 2003), went to the Stanley Cup Final five times, won nine division titles, and reached the Stanley Cup Playoffs 21 times, including 13 straight times from 1997-2010. The Devils also had 17 consecutive winning seasons from 1992-93 through 2009-10.

    Lamoriello was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2009. Three players that Lamoriello drafted, Shanahan and defensemen Scott Stevens and Scott Niedermayer, are also in the Hall of Fame. Former Devils goalie Martin Brodeur is eligible for induction in 2018.

    "Lou Lamoriello created and defined what it meant to be a New Jersey Devil," Harris said in a statement. "His brilliance in shaping this franchise into one of the most storied and celebrated organizations in sport will make him a New Jersey Devil for life. He represented this organization, our current and former players, the state of New Jersey, and the greatest fans in the National Hockey League in a manner that exemplified character, class, and dignity.

    "Lou's record on the ice speaks for itself and as amazing as it is, it pales in comparison to his record as a human being. His passion, integrity and leadership over the last 28 years impacted the lives of thousands, creating a lasting legacy. I have been honored to have worked with Lou over the last two years and I will forever consider it a privilege."

    The Devils were 1,093-779-268 in Lamoriello's 28-year tenure. They were also 136-116 in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The Devils had the NHL's second-best record in the 1990s (396-275-110) and the second-best record in the 2000s (422-223-95).

    Lamoriello was hired by the Devils on April 30, 1987 to be the president of the team. Shanahan, the No. 2 pick in the 1987 NHL Draft, was the first player the Devils selected under Lamoriello's guidance.

    Lamoriello assumed the dual role as president and GM prior to the 1987-88 season. The Devils made the playoffs for the first time in franchise history that season.

    In addition to his achievements with the Devils, Lamoriello has also been successful on the international stage with USA Hockey and previously at Providence College.

    Lamoriello was the GM of the United States' World Cup of Hockey gold medal-winning team in 1996. He also was the GM for the United States in the 1998 Nagano Olympics. He received the Lester Patrick Trophy in 1992 and was inducted into the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame in 2012.

    He came to the Devils from Providence, where he was the athletic director after serving as the Friars coach for 15 seasons, compiling a .578 winning percentage (248-179-13). The Friars made the postseason 12 years in a row, including the 1983 Final Four.

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