A Trick of the Tail tour radio broadcast

[WytchCrypt]

Back in '76 I was living in the SF Bay Area and on Christmas day at around 7pm a local rock FM radio station (KSJO or possibly KOME) broadcast an entire show from the AToTT tour. The good news, I recorded it! The bad news, I recorded it on 8 track and it's long gone

I'm wondering if anyone out there has any info on this "official" radio broadcast and knows if it's available anywhere. Note, this is not the same show that the well circulated "Genesis: In Concert" video from that tour is from and I've never seen this show pop up as a bootleg. As far as the setlist, the odd thing I remember was they played "White Mountain". Another odd thing was the radio station broadcast the show in 2 parts, playing John Lennon's "And so this is Christmas" between them. As far as my research shows, the AToTT tour ended mid July 1976 so this was not a live radio simulcast but came from a promotional recording of some kind. It included the entire show and Bruford on drums was pure magic.

Anyone know anything about this fantastic lost treasure?

[flytomars]

Could this be it?
http://prrp-music.org/prrpgs016/index.htm

[GuitarGeek]

There's several radio broadcasts from the Trick tour. Both Pittsburgh and Cleveland were broadcast on the radio (though I think the Cleveland was played at some later date, which is why none of the versions I've ever seen has Entangled on it, because it was left off the broadcast), and there's probably others, too.

White Mountain was, I believe, a nightly feature on the Trick tour, which I've always thought was a bit odd, because I'm not sure it was performed while Ant was still in the band. As I recall, Rutherford would introduce the song each night, telling a story about the wolf in the song wandering into a record store and finding a copy of Trespass and being stunned to find there was a song on the record about him, etc.

[WytchCrypt]

Could this be it?
http://prrp-music.org/prrpgs016/index.htm

Thanks for the link!

Reviewed all the liner and production notes from this 4/15/76 Cleveland show and this seemed very possible...nearly a sure thing as it included a radio intro and outro. Unfortunately, it doesn't include Entangled and Squonk which I definitely recall from my radio broadcast recording. And since the liner notes specifically mention the bizarre fact that Entangled and Squonk are missing from the original broadcast, that casts a huge doubt on the probability that this is the same version I heard.

Also, my broadcast fit perfectly on a 90 minute 8 track (including Lennon's "And So This is Christmas"), yet when I total up the time of this radio broadcast, it comes in at 103 minutes and 38 seconds (not including the radio intro and outro) so is definitely about 16 minutes longer than the broadcast I taped. Of course, it's possible that the version I recorded had some post production editing so the show would come in at 90 minutes, but I definitely recall it included Dance on a Volcano, White Mountain, Squonk, Entangled, Firth of Fifth, Supper's Ready, I Know What I Like, Cinema Show, and Los Endos. Also interesting as the production notes state that this show was broadcast by 2 stations in Pittsburgh and Cleveland and I heard it on a SF area station about 8 months later. Still, it's possible that my SF station was connected to the Pittsburgh and Cleveland stations and later received broadcast rights...

Because of the track and timing inconsistencies, I tend to doubt this is the same show I recorded but it's the closest candidate I've found to this point! I wonder if there was also a radio broadcast of the Berkeley or possibly another West coast show later in the tour?

[flytomars]

There is also Syria Mosque - Pittsburgh, Pa from 1976-04-13, it has Entangled and Squonk but is ~110 minutes long...
Wait a sec, did your show include material from the lamb? Mabe this what was edited out to make it 90 minutes?

[unclemeat]

Another one from that tour :
http://www.concertvault.com/genesis/...e-10-1976.html

[Progatron]

Yes, "White Mountain" was played on the entire tour, and was nicely done IMO. Very atmospheric in a live setting, especially Tony's ominous keys building up to the "Fang, son of Great Fang the traitor we seek..." section. No doubt Mike introduced this one as it was one of the Phillips/Rutherford compositions from the early days (also no doubt that it was him who lobbied for its inclusion on the tour, as Banks wasn't particularly fond of it, and Collins & Hackett had never played it at that point). One of the tracks (along with "Entangled" and the "It/Watcher" combo) that makes the Trick setlist one of the rarer ones. One of my favourite tours to collect back in the day.

[JKL2000]

I didn't know you could record stuff on 8 track - LOL. I want to know which show this was too now.

[moecurlythanu]

Unfortunately, the Radio Show Guide at the movement has no mention of a Bay Area rebroadcast for any of the known 1976 recordings.

[JKL2000]

What's acknowledged as the best available broadcast from this tour?

[ronmac]

What's acknowledged as the best available broadcast from this tour?

The Pittsburgh one kills. It's really great.

[Fracktured]

The Pittsburgh one kills. It's really great.

That one is good. The Hammersmith show was a KBFH show which is very good but only a part of the whole show.

[AncientChord]

The Pittsburgh one kills. It's really great.

Ditto. Excellent recording. And IMO the best version ever of White Mountain, with booming bass pedals, and glorious mellotron. Available on many torrent sites. Go for it!

https://thepiratebay.la/torrent/9071...gh__USA_(1976)

[ronmac]

^^ Just a note. If you hear Phil say "Hello, Baltimore" at the beginning, it's the Pittsburgh show. You couldn't ask for better sound.

[Progatron]

[trurl]

I remember that Pittsburgh show the night it was broadcast. I was 12! Bought Trick the next day.

[WytchCrypt]

There is also Syria Mosque - Pittsburgh, Pa from 1976-04-13, it has Entangled and Squonk but is ~110 minutes long...
Wait a sec, did your show include material from the lamb? Mabe this what was edited out to make it 90 minutes?

I was thinking the same thing as I don't recall any Lamb stuff on my broadcast. Also I was looking at another AToTT show on PRRP and it included Entangled, Squonk, and Phil's stories to introduce Cinema Show and Supper's Ready, which I think were also on my old recording. Anyway, I'm going to give the 4/13/76 Pittsburgh show a listen...considering I haven't heard the SF radio broadcast in about 35 years I probably won't be able to tell the difference

Oh, and here was my trusty Radio Shack 8 Track Recorder

[Dave (in MA)]

I didn't know you could record stuff on 8 track - LOL. I want to know which show this was too now.

Yep. I recorded the UK show from Boston off the radio live as it happened. It has a track "Forever Until Sunday" that was not included on the syndicated broadcast that got used for the live CDs that eventually came out. I used one of these.

[Shadow]

There are two good sounding versions on Dime. The one from Cleveland sounded great but looked shorter and Collins' voice sounded like shit on the Carpet Crawlers sample. Another one from Detroit also sounded great but no vocals in the samples but looked to be a longer show.

[moecurlythanu]

Do any of you 8 track recorders remember Certron tapes?

[2steves]

Could this be it?
http://prrp-music.org/prrpgs016/index.htm

This is the one I have---very strong recording---love it.

[GuitarGeek]

Do any of you 8 track recorders remember Certron tapes?

Those were the ones with the white labels and the stripes (blue on the C-90 tapes, red on C-60, or was it the other way around). I only remember them on cassettes, though. The only blank 8-track tapes I ever remember seeing were Ampex.

[WytchCrypt]

So I gave this one a listen and definitely recognize Phil's story before Cinema Show as being the same as on my original SF broadcast. Don't remember the whole Baltimore/Pittsburgh confusion speech though. Suppose this may mean the original SF radio broadcast I heard was not the Pittsburgh show and that Phil told the exact same Cinema Show story every night. Hard to say for sure, but anyway the Pittsburgh broadcast is fantastic

[trurl]

Certron? Heck yeah- the cassettes at least. They were cheap!

[WytchCrypt]

Do any of you 8 track recorders remember Certron tapes?

Don't even remember them by brand name...probably whatever ones Radio Shack sold