I'm looking at the PA thread that you linked to, Sean, and it seems that there are quite a few "delicate flowers" out there. I would think that by adulthood people develop thicker skins, but evidently not everybody.
I'm looking at the PA thread that you linked to, Sean, and it seems that there are quite a few "delicate flowers" out there. I would think that by adulthood people develop thicker skins, but evidently not everybody.
I know what you mean, but was pleasantly surprised at the low negative ratio VS positive things to say about us. A few years back I bet it would have been different.
Last edited by Sean; 09-11-2015 at 02:17 PM.
Sean, I registered with PA in '06 and found out there are toooo many fanboys over there and very unfriendly. Been her since early '08 and Ive made soooo many good friends on here
that I cherish(including you of course)
One other thing I'm noticing over there: Trane's spelling/typing seems to be much better at PA than at PE. Do they have a "Cone of Grammatical Invincibility" over there, or something?
I'm on both sites regularly and have to say the atmosphere between the two has improved significantly over the last few years. They do seem a bit more sensitive over there and don't recognize sarcastic banter very well (they have a few grade A trolls over there). I like it quite a lot and it's an excellent resource for researching albums.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
"Corn Flakes pissed in. You ranted. Mission accomplished. Thread closed."
-Cozy 3:16-
People never bother to mention that option!
Reading through that PA thread, I don't understand most of the criticisms they level at PE. I haven't experienced any of that.
I know we already had a thread recently that compared the two, but at the very least, PE has a much easier to read format.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Way too many symph plebs without appreciation of a truly formalistic approach to rock music on here tbh.
Just watch. Someone posts a thread about a new band on here, we flock to the thread, listen to samples, Steve F. stocks the CD. We win and the bands win. So ... yes!
Ian Beabout
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https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.co...-and-holland-3
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"...and as a whole tend to dislike the cliquish atmosphere".
Yeah, I defiantly saw that. But I got over it. Moving to 3.0 really helped w/ that 'problem'.
I've no time for both, and PE wins.
Now if PE could stamp out the use of the Keytar, PE would make Prog much better. (Yes, I'm talking to you, Geoff.)
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Ian Beabout
Mixing and mastering engineer. See ya at ProgDay !
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.co...m/bakers-dozen
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.co...-and-holland-3
colouratura.bandcamp.com
I think there are four linchpins to the "Progressive Rock Community," or the interlocking sub-communities that make up our little scene. They are fan magazines, vendor sites, internet sites/forums, and festivals. To me, all of these outlets play a crucial role in bringing together the relatively small worldwide audience for this kind of music. The loss or diminishing of these I think translates into a loss of focus for the "style" (I use the term loosely), and a loss of the ability to reach people who are, or might become, fans.
PE is among the premier internet forums (if not THE premier internet forum). Very little slips by the membership here, from gigs and festivals, to new releases and news. It's almost a "one stop shop" for much of what I want to know about what's going on. It's also a hub for discussion, some of which is redundant, but much of which can be informative and interesting. I have a suspicion, and you or Duncan probably have the stats to back this up, that there are a lot of lurkers who don't post, but benefit from the news and discussions here.
PE has a different vibe than Prog Archives. I have absolutely nothing against Prog Archives, I use it frequently, and occasionally lurk on their forums. I think there's plenty of room for both, and that if one or the other disappeared, it would be a huge loss to the Prog Community.
So the short answer to your question is hell yes I think Progressive Rock is better off because of PE's existence. I'd extend that to every magazine, festival and Prog vendor as well. If you lose these hubs of activity, they would need to be re-invented or the scene will simply evaporate.
That's my take on it. So keep up the good work and stop asking silly questions!
Bill
There was never a 'clique' problem on PE. Can we put this to bed once and for all? PE was made up of a lot of people who preferred to remain anonymous on-line personas but also people who wanted to meet face-to-face and become real-life friends. Once the latter occurs, the way you communicate on-line changes irrevocably. You now have shared experiences. To "outsiders" this appears like a clique, but the reality always was that it was open to anyone who wanted to share in the experience. Every major festival would introduce more people into the fold as it were... It was never a case where a certain group would meet, form a clique, and then exclude everybody else. That was always PE's strongest quality, imo... We'd have those great PE photos at NF and almost everybody in the photo had a certain rapport with everyone else. That was the true magic of this site. It was fleeting but for a while it was a blast.
"Corn Flakes pissed in. You ranted. Mission accomplished. Thread closed."
-Cozy 3:16-
The music was better before PE. And here I blamed Phil Collins all these years.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF STUPID PEOPLE IN LARGE GROUPS!
I pretty much agree with everything in Yves post regarding cliques.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Oh, I have a better suggestion. Check your in-box.
From the PA thread:
"The appeal of the PA is the database, people come here to find out about an artist and/or an album, to read the reviews and find out what other albums are available in that artists discography.
Therefore we need more categories..."
Yes, I've often thought to myself: PA would be perfect if only they had more categories.
Oh, the immaculate irony.
The effervescently persistent "symph" vs. "avant" conundrum axiom, like. Know only one and you allegedly don't "get" the other, know both and you're a "Hitler" for arguing against anything whatsoever as regards either.
PE saved not only Prog, but the suburbs of south Spokane.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Ian Beabout
Mixing and mastering engineer. See ya at ProgDay !
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.co...m/bakers-dozen
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.co...-and-holland-3
colouratura.bandcamp.com
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
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