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    Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in he Night

    Just ordered this from Wayside on the heels of the first track. Really love Pye's vocal delivery... Any fans of this record????

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    Great stuff. This one grew on me over the years.Songcraft par excellance.Not my fave Caravan but it's up there, right behind "If I Could Do It All Over Again..".
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    Caravan was never a big hit with me --- I like some things but overall a bit too "soft" sounding perhaps. I pull some out occasionally and do enjoy it though.

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    Definitely in their top 5 albums in my book (along with the debut, If I, G&P, and WL)
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    Top Caravan Album when Grey and Pink isn't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by progman1975 View Post
    Just ordered this from Wayside on the heels of the first track. Really love Pye's vocal delivery... Any fans of this record????
    Was the first Caravan album I owned and it's still one I like very much.

    Land Of Grey & Pink will always be my favorite, but this is #2 or #3 for me.
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    My fave Caravan would be "Live at the Fairfield Halls" but For Girls would be a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheH View Post
    My fave Caravan would be "Live at the Fairfield Halls" but For Girls would be a close second.
    That's about it for me as well. Girls and GP are about as good as it gets but that live album kills
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    This one, Grey and Pink and the s/t debut are my faves. Great stuff, and the one in question here is arguably their most overtly "prog" one overall. And their "hardest", to the extent that this can be applied on Caravan at all.
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    The first three are all total classics to me. This is the best of the rest and is pretty much equal to those early albums IMHO. The sound has a harder edge, with guitar more to the fore. Much of the album remained in their set-lists decades later...the albums either side of it (Waterloo Lily and Cunning Stunts) haven't fared so well in that respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    This one, Grey and Pink and the s/t debut are my faves. Great stuff, and the one in question here is arguably their most overtly "prog" one overall. And their "hardest", to the extent that this can be applied on Caravan at all.
    To me it's more of a songwriting album, and a real triumph for Pye Hastings in that regard-- Man, the guy could swing a melody. "Chance of a Lifetime" would do McCartney proud, and I mean that as a high compliment. Great vocals also-- Too bad this was John Perry's only album, his deeper voice worked great as a counterpoint to Pye's.

    Then of course you get the ten-minute prog instrumental as a capper. Love this album.

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    First progressive rock album I bought and still think their best. New Symphonia comes a close second.
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    Not a huge Caravan fan, though Golf Girl is one of my fave songs of all time and I love Grey & Pink...the rest of their albums have never done much for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by bRETT View Post
    Too bad this was John Perry's only album, his deeper voice worked great as a counterpoint to Pye's.
    You HAVE heard Perry's 1976 solo album, right? Sunset Wading? It's simply stunningly beautiful, and although his voice is used at a mimimum it leaves a profound mark on the end result - man, that's one FAT timbre! He was excellent as backing vox with Quantum Jump as well, always instantly recognizable.
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    Once upon a time (late eighties, very early nineties, perhaps) there was a weekly radio show dedicated to progressive music here in my city in Brazil. It was an one-hour program in which the DJ would pick up a band and play selections from various albums. I used to record most if not all radio shows on tape. I remember this program with Caravan, in which I listened to Nine Feet Underground for the very first time. Other highlights for me were "As I feel I die", from their second album, and a song that only much time later I would find out which album it would come from (pre-internet days, remember?). This song happened to be "Be Alright/Chance of a Lifetime", from "For Girls...". In fact, I had completelly forgotten about this track when I finally bought this album like ten years ago and was delighted to discover it again. That said, "For Girls..." is definitely one of my favorite Caravan albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    You HAVE heard Perry's 1976 solo album, right? Sunset Wading? It's simply stunningly beautiful, and although his voice is used at a mimimum it leaves a profound mark on the end result - man, that's one FAT timbre! He was excellent as backing vox with Quantum Jump as well, always instantly recognizable.
    Definitely seconded. Great album from start to finish. Somehow Michael Giles' "Progress" manages to have an overall similar vibe to me. Does JG Perry play on it as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conti View Post
    Michael Giles' "Progress" manages to have an overall similar vibe to me. Does JG Perry play on it as well?
    Perry most certainly appears on Progress; he was by then close friends with Giles after having worked with him on Ant Phillips' Wise After the Event in the aftermath of his own solo record. He would later appear with Giles and Phillips once again on the latter's Sides.
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    Great record.

    I like a couple of these songs even better on the Live at Fairfield Hall record that came out in 2002ish.

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    One of my top 3 Caravans, along with Waterloo Lily and Grey & Pink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    I rank it #1 of their LPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progman1975 View Post
    Just ordered this from Wayside on the heels of the first track. Really love Pye's vocal delivery... Any fans of this record????
    It was my first taste of Caravan, and still one of my faves. I love Pye’s voice and thought that John G. Perry complemented him well. Love Geoff’s viola, which is all over the record and became Caravan’s calling-card ever since. “A Hunting We Shall Go” (complete with orchestrated Soft Machine theme in the middle) is an epic for all time.

    And allow me to add a second recommendation for Perry’s solo disc, Sunset Wading. Also listen to the two Aviator discs, featuring Perry on bass/vocals, Mick Rogers (ex-Manfred Mann’s Earth Band) on guitar/vocals, Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull) on drums and, on the first, Jack Lancaster (Blodwyn Pig) on woodwinds/Lyricon. Perry played a custom Wal bass, which contributed to his distinctive tone.
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    Have to go against the grain and say while I think the album is a fair one, its a real notch down from the first three, the viola is a poor fit and John Perry's voice grates on my ears. Caravan started to sound, if its not a wierd thing to say, a bit too professional on this album, a bit too corporate and it doesnt suit them IMO.

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