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    What comes after 27?

    We've all heard of the 27 Club (musicians who died at 27) but what age of death for a musician is the second most common? Is there a 31 Club that has two less members than the 27 Club?
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    Ah, thanks for that. Just confirms my suspicion: everything I've ever been told by anyone is complete bullshit.
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    I dare say those who like to believe in popular myths such as the 27 Club won't read the article in full and try to understand it. Statistical analysis is not an easy concept to grasp, for those not numerically inclined, and it's much easier to say "Bah, those scientists, what would they know?"

    Thanks for posting the link - pretty much confirms my expectations. There is nothing special about age 27... but there ARE factors that make it more likely that someone will die young if they are a pop musician, if you follow this link that he provides to the results of his own research: https://theconversation.com/stairway...industry-32735
    The graphs start about halfway down.

    He uses a word I have not seen before: "valorises".

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    w/o looking at the link I'm sure the biggies in the 27 Club are Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison and Jones.


    35s and Under

    Hank Williams 29
    Buddy Holly 22
    Ritchie Valens 17
    The Big Bopper 28
    Cass Elliot 32
    Ian Curtis 23
    Nick Drake 26
    Tim Buckley 28
    Jeff Buckley 30
    Keith Moon 32
    John Bonham 32
    (Should there be a 32 Club for drummers? )
    Gene Vincent 35
    Johnny Kidd 26
    Sid Vicious 21
    Danny Whitten 29
    Ronnie Van Zant 29
    Steve Gaines 28
    Cassie Gaines 29


    But 50 has some big names:
    Syd Barrett
    Joe Strummer

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    There was actually a video from a classic rock site that went over the why of the "27 club". It was kinda silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zravkapt View Post
    We've all heard of the 27 Club (musicians who died at 27) but what age of death for a musician is the second most common? Is there a 31 Club that has two less members than the 27 Club?
    probably the reverse trend

    the 72 club...
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Incidentally, when Courtney Love said "He's gone and joined that stupid club", did she actually mention the number 27? She may have simply been referring to the club of musicians who took their own lives.

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    Incidentally, when Courtney Love said "He's gone and joined that stupid club", did she actually mention the number 27? She may have simply been referring to the club of musicians who took their own lives.

    Whenever I read about musicians who die young or commit suicide because of mental health issues, I marvel at the fact that Brian Wilson is still with us.

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    If you make it past 27, you've got a century of smooth sailing ahead of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    probably the reverse trend

    the 72 club...
    That's when they're 72 and still performing.

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    Jazz musicians were dying young before it was hip to die young.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    probably the reverse trend

    the 72 club...
    Here's a serious question: how many musicians (while still in the business) lived to be 72?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zravkapt View Post
    Here's a serious question: how many musicians (while still in the business) lived to be 72?
    72.

    (A non-serious answer.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zravkapt View Post
    Here's a serious question: how many musicians (while still in the business) lived to be 72?
    Dave Brock is 74
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    How old was Daevid Allen when he died?
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    77 Damn, there goes our theory!

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    Sort of like the symphony no. 9 club.

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