Peter's Cardiacs' Anomalies

[PeterG]

How many Cardiacs' songs do you know of where the title of another Cardiacs song or album is included the lyrics?


Well, here are two.

Baby Heart Dirt (OLAITS 1988), includes this verse:

Brave sun shines on me on my own it's for me
As Cold As Can Be In An English Sea which
Could mean something other.

And in a kind of symmetry the final lyrics on the much earlier, As Cold As Can Be In An English Sea, (Toy World 1981) are:

It's a Toy World
It's a Toy World
It's a Toy World
It's a Toy World

Which is not only the title of the album it appears on, but also part of the title of a song on the album, namely, Big Noise In A Toy World

[at least 100 dead]

"Hope Day" is mentioned in the "coda" of R.E.S. on The Seaside version AND in "In a City Lining" ("The saving up for the hope day...").

[at least 100 dead]

"Big Ship":

And the tool the tool forever
Falling down planes against the grain



AND:

Creations joining in celebrating happiness and joy
All around the world on land and in the sea

[PeterG]

Well done!

[rcarlberg]

I want them all to have sex with each other.

Been there done that.

[Steve F.]

^ ^ ^

hah!

[PeterG]

Now I want you all to kiss to show...kiss....kiss....KISS!...Kiss the Big Ugly Shark!...Play it Jim!

[PeterG]

My collection of Cardiacs & related bands on CD - official releases only

Dates refer to issue of my copies, which in many cases are not the original release dates. The OR after a date means it is an original release copy of the CD, and so the date is then the correct release date of that album or single.

NB. The missing ALPH numbers are cassettes or vinyl, but that is another post.

ALPH CD000 Archive Cardiacs – 95
ALPH CD005 Rude Bootleg – 95
ALPHCD007 A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window – 88 (OR)
ALPH CD010 Live – 95
ALPHCD012 On Land And In The Sea – 89 (OR)
ALPH CD013 The Seaside – 95
ALPH CD014 Songs For Ships And Irons – 91 (OR)
ALPH 015CD Day Is Gone (4) – 91 (OR)
ALPH CD017 Heaven Born And Ever Bright – 91 (OR)
ALPH CD018 All That Glitters Is A Mares Nest – 95
ALPH CD019 Sampler – 95
ALPH CD020 Tim Smith’s Extra Special OceanLandWorld – 95 (OR)
ALPH CD021 The Sea Nymphs – 95
ALPH DCD 022 Sing To God Parts 1 & 2 – Limited Edition of 3000 double CD pack – 95 (OR)
ALPH CDS 025 Manhoo (3) – 96 (OR)
ALPH CDS 026 Odd Even (3) – 96 (OR)
ALPH CD 027 Guns – 99 (OR)
ALPH CD 028 Signs (3) – 99 (OR)
ALPH CD 029 Greatest Hits – 01 (OR)
ALPH CD 030 Garage Concerts Vol I – 05 (OR)
ALPH CD 031 Garage Concerts Vol II – 05 (OR)

AME CD001 Spratley’s Japs – Pony – 99 (OR)
AME CD002 Spratley’s Japs – Hazel (4) – 99 (OR)
AME CD004 Mr & Mrs Smith and Mr Drake - ? 99 or later.

BR003 Leader of the Starry Skies – A Tribute To Tim Smith – Songbook 1
BR003 Leader of the Starry Skies – A Tribute To Tim Smith – A Loyal Companion

Organ011CD Bellyeye (3) – 95
Org056CD Cardiacs meet Camp Blackfoot (4 + 3) – 96
ORG228 Songs by Cardiacs and Affectionate Friends – 01

Related bands

ROUND007-2 The God Damn Whorez – We are the Lucky Thirteen

TOPP037CD Sidi Bou Said – Ode To Drink (3)
TOPP050CD Sidi Bou Said – Funnybody (3)
TOPPCD053 Sidi Bou Said – Obsessive
TOPP057CDX Sidi Bou Said – Obsessive (4)

[PeterG]

I must say I find the alphabetical order of the cat. number prefixes, when placed in a natural order, quite disturbing rather than coincidental.....
ALPH
AME
BR
ORG
ROUND
TOPP

[PeterG]

Cardiacs ain't prog.....but this seems to fit:

"Math rock is a rhythmically complex, often guitar-based, style of experimental rock and indie rock music that emerged in the late 1980s, influenced by progressive rock bands like King Crimson and 20th century minimalist composers such as Steve Reich. It is characterized by complex, atypical rhythmic structures (including irregular stopping and starting), counterpoint, odd time signatures, angular melodies, and extended, often dissonant, chords."

[PeterG]

I must say I find the alphabetical order of the cat. number prefixes, when placed in a natural order, quite disturbing rather than coincidental.....
ALPH
AME
BR
ORG
ROUND
TOPP

FUGGIN hell, I've just noticed something else, if you take the first letter of each prefix in that order you get A ABORT....freaky

[PeterG]

What I’ve done here is I’ve simply added my Cardiacs (Alph & Torso) vinyl to my Cardiacs CD list so that you can see the ALPH catalogue numbers as they fill in those gaps. Vinyl is in bold and italic.

ALPH CD000 Archive Cardiacs – 95

ALPH 002 Seaside Treats – 4 track mini-album – 85
ALPH 004 Big Ship – 5 track mini-album – 87

ALPH CD005 Rude Bootleg – 95

ALPH 0005 Rude Bootleg – 86 (sleeve signed by all the band)
ALPH 006 - 12” EP A:There’s Too Many Irons In The Fire; All Spectacular B: Loosefish Scapegrace -87
SFNT 013 - 12” EP The Nighttracks Radio 1 Session (29th November 1987) - 88

ALPHCD007 A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window – 88

ALPH LP007 A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window – 88
Torso 33060 A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window – 88

ALPH 008SP - 7” Is This the Life b/w I’m Eating in Bed - 88
Torso 70060 - 7” Is This the Life b/w I’m Eating in Bed – 88
Torso 12060 - 12” EP Is This the Life b/w I’m Eating in Bed & There’s Too Many Irons In The Fire - 88

ALPH 009 - 7” Susannah’s Still Alive b/w Blind in Safety and Leafy in Love – 88
ALPH 009T - 12” EP A: Susannah’s Still Alive; Blind in Safety and Leafy in Love B: All His Geese Are Swans – 88

ALPH CD010 Live – 95

ALPH LP010 – Live – 88
ALPH 011 - 7” Baby Heart Dirt b/w I Hold My Love In My Arms – 89
ALPH 011T - 12” EP Baby Heart Dirt (4) – 89

ALPHCD012 On Land And In The Sea – 89

ALPH LP 012 On Land And In The Sea – 89

ALPH CD013 The Seaside – 95

ALPH LP013 The Seaside – 84

ALPH CD014 Songs For Ships And Irons – 91

ALPH LP014 Songs For Ships And Irons – 91

ALPH 015CD Day Is Gone (4) – 91

ALPH 015T - 12” EP Day is Gone (4) - 91
ALPH 016SP - 7” Appealing To Venus b/w Tree Tops High - 91

ALPH CD017 Heaven Born And Ever Bright – 91

ALPH LP017 Heaven Born And Ever Bright – 91 (original version)

ALPH CD018 All That Glitters Is A Mares Nest – 95
ALPH CD019 Sampler – 95
ALPH CD020 Tim Smith’s Extra Special OceanLandWorld – 95
ALPH CD021 The Sea Nymphs – 95
ALPH DCD 022 Sing To God Parts 1 & 2 – Limited Edition of 3000 double CD pack – 95
ALPH CDS 025 Manhoo (3) – 96
ALPH CDS 026 Odd Even (3) – 96
ALPH CD 027 Guns – 99
ALPH CD 028 Signs (3) – 99
ALPH CD 029 Greatest Hits – 01
ALPH CD 030 Garage Concerts Vol I – 05
ALPH CD 031 Garage Concerts Vol II – 05

[at least 100 dead]

I thought it would be a great chapter title covering this event in the non-existent Cardiacs biography.

You and PeterG should write one already, but keep him on a short leash or else it’ll just be one giant list across 250 pages…

[PeterG]

In the past & even today I've tried compiling a top 30 & it's too bloody difficult, 'cos I would want to include almost all of certain albums. So instead, how about a fav track from each album - side projects included. But please do it in chronological order. Include live albums and compilations if you want to.

To Go Off and Things (TOI)
Nurses Whispering Verses (TW)
Piffol Four Times (Archive)
A Wooden Fish On Wheels (The Seaside)
That's All (M&MS&MD)
Big Ship (BS mini-album)
Is This The Life (RB)
The Whole World Window (ALMAAHATWWW)
Tarred & Feathered (Live)
Arnald (OLAITS)
Stoneage Dinosaurs (SFS&I)
Day Is Gone (HB&EB)
As Cold As Can Be In An English Sea (Sampler)
R.E.S (ATGIAMN)
Savour (TSESOW)
Abade (TSN)
Wireless (STG pt 1)
Foundling (STG pt 2)
Hazel (Spratleys Japs)
Wind & Rains Is Cold (Guns)
She is Hiding Behind The Shed (Greatest Hits)
Jibber & Twitch (GC Vol.I)
A Bus For A Bus On A Bus (GC Vol.II)

[at least 100 dead]

"That's All"? Not "Dergo"? You're an odd bird, PeterG.


Piffol Three Times (Archive)
Nurses Whispering Verses (The Seaside, 2015 Remaster)
Dergo (M&MS&MD)
I'm Eating in Bed (Rude Bootleg)
The Breakfast Line (ALMAAHATWWW)
Loosefish Scapegrace (Live)
The Everso Closely Guarded Line(OL&itS)
To Go Off and Things (Mare's Nest)
Too Many Irons (SFS&I)
Day Is Gone (HB&EB)
Swimming with the Snake (OceanLandWorld)
Lilly White's Party (Sea Nymphs)
Eden on the Air (STG pt 1)
Flap Off You Beak (STG pt 2)
Sparrows (Spratleys Japs)
Jitterbug (Guns)
As Cold As Can Be in an English Sea (GC Vol.I)
Dinnertime Is at Home (GC Vol.2)

[PeterG]

"That's All"? Not "Dergo"? You're an odd bird, PeterG.

Very difficult to choose one from that album as there are about five that I hold equally high.

And of course I'm an odd bird, the evidence in my defence or for the prosecution 1, I'm Irish, thus according to Freud immune to psychoanalysis 2, I have Aspergers/ADD/Dissociative Depersonalization (Derealisation) Disorder/Clinical Depression and Clinical Anxiety/and the remnants of PTSS. But apart from all that I'm fine.

[PeterG]

To be honest though I could happily survive forever more on just TW, TS, M&MS&MD, OLAITS, ALMAAHATWWW, SFS&I, and HB&EB.

[at least 100 dead]

The Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis? That explains it then! They also must have invented ODD (oppositional defiant disorder).

We only agree on one song: Day Is Gone. Still can’t believe it wasn’t a hit back in the day.

[Stephan Brother]

I've just noticed that the double album edition of Special Garage Concerts has the catalogue number the same as vol 2, but with an extra D, ALPH DCD 31.

Sing to God, vol 1, vol 2, and the double all had different ALPH numbers.

Of no real importance, other than it troubles my inner librarian by having number 31 twice.

[chalkpie]

I just read this thread for the first time... brilliant!

[Stephan Brother]

Any thoughts on Pip as Uncle Dick but Peter Spoilt it having within it the Spider-Man theme, when in real life Spider-man had an enemy called Cardiac?