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    Quote Originally Posted by Frumious B View Post
    To my way of thinking Led Zeppelin are the "It" band for that style of hard rock and Deep Purple are much less talented also rans.
    Deep Purple are hardly 'less talented also rans'. Their '70s output consists of some of the best hard rock albums in the genre. Their are also some gems among their more recent stuff, Perpendicular and Bananas to name two. All IMO of course.

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    If Madonna can get in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    If it ever happens the big question will be what lineup gets in. The same will be true for Yes if it ever happens.
    An easy question to answer, if those in charge weren't such tools about it.

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    If Madonna can get in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProgFan View Post
    I think ELP and Jethro Tull should be in the top ten.

    This times a million. Both were hugely popular among the rock crowd at their peak, sold tens of millions of albums, sold out stadiums and arenas, were musical pioneers, and were both hugely influential. Add King Crimson to this duo, minus the album sales. But no...

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    If YES gets in, do we have to endure a re-UNION at the ceremony? (shudder)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalProgRules View Post
    If YES gets in, do we have to endure a re-UNION at the ceremony? (shudder)
    I still think the "Union" tour was awesome. I saw it twice and still two of my all time favorite Yes concerts. The album, not so much, but an all star Yes jam could be very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    an all star Yes jam could be very cool.
    If you got all the former full-time and part-time Yes men together there'd be so many people it'd look like the cast of Godspell up there. More likely they'd honor the '72 lineup and call it good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    If you got all the former full-time and part-time Yes men together there'd be so many people it'd look like the cast of Godspell up there. More likely they'd honor the '72 lineup and call it good.
    I can't imagine that Rabin wouldn't be up there, too. And you'd need to have both Bruford and White and Kaye and Wakeman.
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    Squire has mentioned in several interviews that he wants all 18 Yes-men inducted if they get in. Of course what the band wants is not always taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    Squire has mentioned in several interviews that he wants all 18 Yes-men inducted if they get in. Of course what the band wants is not always taken into account.
    Which is just one of the many stupid things about the RRHoF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    I can't imagine that Rabin wouldn't be up there, too. And you'd need to have both Bruford and White and Kaye and Wakeman.
    Considering "90125" was commercially their most successful album, I can't imagine they could ignore that lineup along with the "classic" lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalProgRules View Post
    If YES gets in, do we have to endure a re-UNION at the ceremony? (shudder)
    Will there be a press conference? - I know that was Genesis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    Considering "90125" was commercially their most successful album, I can't imagine they could ignore that lineup along with the "classic" lineup.
    It seems like a slam dunk, but Heart's most successful albums commercially were also in the 1980's, and the HOF ignored that lineup - even after the Wilson sisters stated publically that Mark Andes and Denny Carmassi should be inducted. There is no telling what the HoF would or will do with each act - there is not much consistency to use as a basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    It seems like a slam dunk, but Heart's most successful albums commercially were also in the 1980's, and the HOF ignored that lineup - even after the Wilson sisters stated publically that Mark Andes and Denny Carmassi should be inducted. There is no telling what the HoF would or will do with each act - there is not much consistency to use as a basis.
    I think the rationale is that "there wouldn't have BEEN an 80s band if the 70s band hadn't been there first". Plus it seems the "70s classic rock" format is what these bands get connected to, not their 80s hits.
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    Just induct every band member who was onstage for the Union tour. You're done. Inducting Davison, David etc. would be like inducting John Stamos into the HOF as a Beach Boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    I think the rationale is that "there wouldn't have BEEN an 80s band if the 70s band hadn't been there first". Plus it seems the "70s classic rock" format is what these bands get connected to, not their 80s hits.
    In that particular case, that may have been the Hall's rationale. But then take Metallica, where they inducted bassist Robert Trujillo - who had been on precisely one Metallica album (the one released 10 days before getting inducted). Or the Grateful Dead, where every member ever was inducted, including Brent Mydland (80's) and Vince Welnick (90's). Just pointing out that there is no consistency when it comes to this. Should they listen to the band? That's a hard call also, since many bands have squabbles. All of which is why I will never understand why they don't just induct all of the members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSixFan View Post
    This times a million. Both were hugely popular among the rock crowd at their peak, sold tens of millions of albums, sold out stadiums and arenas, were musical pioneers, and were both hugely influential. Add King Crimson to this duo, minus the album sales. But no...

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    Playing devil's advocate here: how was ELP "hugely influential"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlneudorf View Post
    Deep Purple are hardly 'less talented also rans'. Their '70s output consists of some of the best hard rock albums in the genre. Their are also some gems among their more recent stuff, Perpendicular and Bananas to name two. All IMO of course.
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    Deep Purple have an incredible legacy of great and good material, but their reputation probably suffered from their unstable line-ups and the fact they reformed and then carried on from the 80s on. Led Zep kept the same recording line-up and existed only in the 70s, so their image remained "pure". Deep Purple put out some questionable material in the 80s and early 90s, but they have had a great career in the last 20 years with Steve Morse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    Just pointing out that there is no consistency when it comes to this. All of which is why I will never understand why they don't just induct all of the members.

    Seems so easy, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    Squire has mentioned in several interviews that he wants all 18 Yes-men inducted if they get in. Of course what the band wants is not always taken into account.
    Even Igor? Billy Sherwood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    Playing devil's advocate here: how was ELP "hugely influential"?

    Maybe hugely is a bit of an overstatement but what prog bands would you say were more influential? KC? PF? YES? RUSH? Genesis? ELP might not have been as big as most of them but as far as influence in the prog world I'd say they were right behind them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    Considering "90125" was commercially their most successful album, I can't imagine they could ignore that lineup along with the "classic" lineup.
    Not to mention the fact that that lineup alone qualifies for induction, having it been more than 25 years since it's formation. Makes you feel old, huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Interstellar View Post
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    Deep Purple have an incredible legacy of great and good material, but their reputation probably suffered from their unstable line-ups and the fact they reformed and then carried on from the 80s on. Led Zep kept the same recording line-up and existed only in the 70s, so their image remained "pure". Deep Purple put out some questionable material in the 80s and early 90s, but they have had a great career in the last 20 years with Steve Morse.
    Then again, DP preceded LZ and outlasted them. I would argue that DP also broke more ground in their first five releases than LZ ever did and were consistently a far better live band. Oh yeah, there's also that little thing about borrowing other artists' material without giving proper credits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Man View Post
    Maybe hugely is a bit of an overstatement but what prog bands would you say were more influential? KC? PF? YES? RUSH? Genesis? ELP might not have been as big as most of them but as far as influence in the prog world I'd say they were right behind them.
    I'd say KC, Yes, Genesis Floyd & Rush were all more influential than ELP. Which other guitar-less keyboard led overblown show bands are there in prog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    I'd say KC, Yes, Genesis Floyd & Rush were all more influential than ELP. Which other guitar-less keyboard led overblown show bands are there in prog?

    And most of those bands were influential-in one way or another-outside of prog rock circles and maintain some level of popularity to this day. ELP? Not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interstellar View Post
    +1
    Deep Purple have an incredible legacy of great and good material, but their reputation probably suffered from their unstable line-ups and the fact they reformed and then carried on from the 80s on. Led Zep kept the same recording line-up and existed only in the 70s, so their image remained "pure". Deep Purple put out some questionable material in the 80s and early 90s, but they have had a great career in the last 20 years with Steve Morse.
    IMHO DP are too one dimensional. They just do that bruising Spinal Tap hard rock thing with Gillian screaming over the top for the most part. Zep's music was much more diverse and multifaceted. I prefer the early Rainbow with Dio to DP.
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