Interesting interview with the Hackman in todays Torygraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...00-a-week.html
Interesting interview with the Hackman in todays Torygraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...00-a-week.html
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So down to earth...
Thanks so much for that---Great interview---Love Steve--I was hoping he was more well off than what he appears to be although he seems to be in a great place in life.
What an odd set of questions...I've never read the Telegraph, but thought it was a general newspaper, not one focused on finance. However, if it's ideologically Conservative, the obsession with money does make sense.
He's doing ok.
He sent a tweet out today that he's moving to a new house (the receipts from his GR2 tour were probably pretty good).
Here's the house he's moving out of:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/...l-Collins.html
Glad he's getting a new house but the one in that dailymail article I think Kim ended up with along with a lot of other assets----is he spitting the funds from the sale of that home or is it her's from divorce settlement. I got the impression she is selling it and living in it.
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"If I had wanted to make millions I could have stayed with Genesis..."
There was no way to know that at the time. When Steve left there was no indication at all Genesis would have anything resembling a hit, let alone become a mega stadium act. Following his muse as a solo artist would have seemed far less risky when he went
I can state quite categorically that Steve wasnt moving out of that house !! not his from many moons ago
“MOJO: What do you think about Genesis?
Governor: Well, they achieved laudable market penetration early on, attributable largely to the aggressive marketing strategies and creative capital of their first CEO, Peter Gabriel. However, while the demand for their product was increasing, they were constantly running in the red, hampered by the excessive artistic investment and suffering from disagreements in the board of directors about the short-term operations of the organisation.
The market initially reacted badly to the decision by Mr. Gabriel to resign from his post and set up his own business venture, but in retrospect this turned out to be a great turning point in the ledgers. While Mr. Gabriel's speculative tactics turned his start-up into a highly successful conglomerate, the Genesis board with Mr. Collins as its chairman rationalised the group's compositional strategy, implemented a new public relations strategy and focused on their key areas of expertise. As a result, Genesis became one of the biggest generators of revenue, jobs and carefully-worded interviews in the 1980s, rocking the stock market indices around the world.
The keys to their winning strategy lay in the astute analysis of the market situation and the ceaseless research and development of their product, as best encapsulated by Mr. Rutherford in his famous “a bit too busy” speech during the evaluation of the group's older material. A rational analysis has indeed confirmed the objective superiority of a mature Genesis composition such as “Invisible Touch” to the working prototypes like “Supper's Ready”, as the former yields greater return on the notes invested than the latter. Of course, Genesis also benefited from the windfall of Mr. Collins's decision to dissolve his partnership with Mrs. Collins in the late 70s. The emotional kickstarter resulted in him beginning an extermely lucrative solo venture which also generated considerable synergistic effects for the group. So great was their success and solvency that they could easily sustain Mr. Banks's occasional non-profitable missteps in trying to branch out.
We must also remember that the resignation of Mr. Hackett from the organisation greatly helped to clarify its vision and strategy. As a sole trader, Mr. Hackett initially generated respectable turnover, but, clinging on to the outdated managerial principles, failed to balance his budget. In the recent years, he has benefited greatly from rationalising his operations and increasingly targeting the still fair-sized market segment for early-Genesis product, a segment largely overlooked by the group themselves but with a considerably long-tail effect for a smaller operator to exploit. Similarly, Mr. Phillips's failure to grow his business beyond what can only be termed as a long-running cottage industry should be partly attributed to his refusal to associate himself with the Genesis brand name.
In short, I feel that Genesis stands undoubtedly as one of the most financially progressive rock bands that Britain has produced.
MOJO: Okay. What about the Third Ear Band?
Governor: Oh, they were never a good investment and were barely solvent at the best of times, but Music from Macbeth does rock hard as fuck, doesn't it?”
^Steve had a brief flirtation with that on the GTR project. I found his comments about that here very interesting and telling, in relation to commercial success not necessarily equalling financial success, due to the amount of time and money spent making it.
I don't think Genesis would really have been pushed in any direction by a label- by the 80s they were one of the biggest rock bands around.
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim that about the band, just because there's a non-political interview with one of them in a newspaper that is Tory-friendly.
Well, this was a band that had a “Dump NATO” poster hanging in the rehearsal room - not exactly conservative, but maybe they were just sharing the room with VdGG…?
But you’re right: Conservatism needn’t be inherently deplorable - it just depends on what you’re trying to conserve, I guess…
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Now there's an investment I'd approve of.I bought a 1957 Gibson Les Paul original guitar for $800 in the early Seventies which seemed like a fortune at the time.
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Aside from Gabriel, I would say the rest of Genesis are very conservative in their general demeanour and general attitude towards things. It comes across quite obviously, and I don't just mean the upper-class accents.
Many here will not be aware of Collins ill-fated remark (late-90's) that he would leave the country if Tony Bliar's Labour party (our 'Democrats') got into government. Tragically, this comment almost single-handedly wrote Collins off in the eyes of a generation of our youth. His reputation has only just begun to recover, shame the same could not be said of England after Labour got in...
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I mostly agree with you but in 1976 (Trick) and 1977 (Wind & Wuthering) they were getting LOTS of airplay in the big (NYC) and small (Tucson) markets that I lived in. Their concert at Madison Square Garden (perhaps not a "mega stadium" but certainly no small theater) in 1977 was indication that they were getting quite popular and had a very good chance at getting bigger. The amount of coverage in Melody Maker from 1976-7 was pretty impressive too. But I do agree that no one could forecast that they would be shilling for Michelob beer and doing as well as they did at their peak.
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