Top 10 Zeuhl Albums of all time (but only allowed one Magma)

[ProgUK]

Although new to Zeuhl here are my 10:

1. Dun-Eros
2. Jean-Paul PRAT-masal
3. Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrième Mouvement
4. Potemkine - Nicolas II
5. Weidorje - s/t
6. Magma-Live : Hhai
7. Eskaton-4-visions
8. Zao-Kawana
9. Rahmann – Rahmann
10. Benoit Widemann-Stress

[calyx]

I am both relieved and disappointed that I own all of these !

[Scrotum Scissor]

I was going to suggest a thread like this myself, and have been contemplating its contents.

For me (no particular order, though):

Magma - Theatre du Taur 1975

and then the other 10:

Dün - Eros
Eider Stellaire - Eider Stellaire
Eskaton - Ardeur
Weidorje - Weidorje
Potemkine - Triton
Art Zoyd - Symphonie Pour le Jour ou Bruleront les Citès
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigor
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite
Bondage Fruit - II
Koenji Hyakkei - Nivraym

[NogbadTheBad]

I'll play

1. Eskaton - 4 Visions
2. Shub Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite
3. Magma - Retrospeckiv I-II
4. Guapo - 5 Suns
5. Dun - Eros
6. Archaia - s/t
7. Kultivator - Barndomens Stigor
8. Combat Astronomy - Dreams No Longer Hesitate
9. Koenjihyakkei - Viva Koenji!
10. Setna - Guerison

Are Art Zoyd Zeuhl?

[Scrotum Scissor]

Are Art Zoyd Zeuhl?

Well, much material on their first three albums was at least heavily Zeuhl-inclined. I wouldn't have included later releases, though.

[nosebone]

Magma - Kobaïa
Zao - Z=7L
Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrième Mouvement
Bernard Paganotti - Paga
Patrick Gauthier - Bebe Godzilla
Serge Brinkoff; Strave - Vision
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigor

[Joe F.]

Magma- Live/Hhai
Weidorje- s/t
Dun- Eros
Neom-Arkana Temporis
Eskaton- Ardeur
Bernard Paganotti- Paga
Jannick Top- Infernal Machine
Xing Sa- Creation De L'univers
Setna- Guerison
Universal Totem Orchestra- Rituale Alieno

[zravkapt]

Magma - Kohntarkosz
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Weidorje - s/t
Zao - Z=7L
Koenjihyakkei - Viva Koenji
Universal Totem Orchestra - Rituale Alieno
Happy Family - s/t
Ga'an - Black Equus
Archaia - s/t
Eider Stellaire - I

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

Dun-Eros
Jean-Paul PRAT-masal
Weidorje - s/t
Eskaton-4-visions
Rahmann – Rahmann
Benoit Widemann-Stress

Potemkine - Triton
Eider Stellaire - Eider Stellaire

Kultivator - Barndomens Stigor

Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrième Mouvement
Patrick Gauthier - Bebe Godzilla

Jannick Top- Infernal Machine

Happy Family - s/t

all the above

There's a thin line between Zeuhl and Fusion and a number of bands which blur that line. Here are more I think are worth mentioning:

One Shot - s/t
NeBeLNeST - NeBeLNeST
Xaal - En Chemin
Sotos - s/t
Joel Dugrenot - Boomerang
Magma - Udu Wudu
Zao - Shekina

[spacefreak]

Rialzu anyone?

[Liquid Tension]

One Shot, Present and Universal Totem Orchestra are a few of my favorites...

[Zeuhlmate]

Magma is the Zeuhlband über alles, but...

In no particular order

Magma - Inedits
Setna - cycle 1
Potemkine - Triton
Jannick Top- Infernal Machine
Bernard Paganotti - Paga
Patrick Gauthier - Bebe Godzilla
KoenjiHyakkei - Viva (they are all good, but this one feels like being run over by a train)
Ruins - Symphonica
Weidorje
Yochk'o Seffer: Ghilgoul

Many bands like Happy Family, a.o. are, to me, just partially zeuhlinspired.
Dont think anybody mentioned Zoïkhem: Vox clamantis in deserto or Gomorrah Vs Khan ? - Definetely interesting
Dont forget Carl Orff: Carmina Catulli or Stravinsky's Les Noces - listen!: https://youtu.be/6IDyrJnKkpI?t=3m00s - perhaps the first zeuhlmusic?

Check out these

Thierry Zaboitzeff:


Bernard Szajner


Nicolas Lens

[TheH]

Some of J.A. Seazer's Theater performances have a strange Zeuhl Appeal (though you would need some love for japanese theater
to appreciate these perfomances in full)

[Trane]

Are Art Zoyd Zeuhl?

It's kind of difficult to say yes, but I'm always inclusive, rather than exclusive.... But to be honest, I don't really understand those that include RIO or morbid gothic (like shub-niggurath) in Zuehl music... I mean what does SN - or AZ for that matter - have in common with Magma's music. Not much in my ears.
Ditto for Ruins and Dün, which sound a lot more RIO than Zeuhl to me. Potemkine has one one Zeuhl album, IMHO. I don't find Vortex being Zeuhl either >> their debut is JR/F ala Out Of Focus and Thanatos is RIO. Nebelnest and Xaal are much more Crison-derived than Zeuhl, IMHO. Etc.....

ok, i'll play (no order)

Magma - Kobaïa (or if it's too JRF for you, take Hhaï)
Universal Totem Orchestra - Rituale Alieno
Setna - both (for if it comles to one/band, hen Guerison)
Eskaton - 4-Vision (though Fiction is awesome)
Xing Sa - Création Univers
Eider Stellaire - I
Guapo - Five Suns (their only Zeuhl album, IMHO)





And I suppose I won't get away without naming one Zao album, so either Osiris or 7L

[Scrotum Scissor]

It's kind of difficult to say yes, but I'm always inclusive, rather than exclusive.... But to be honest, I don't really understand those that include RIO or morbid gothic (like shub-niggurath) in Zuehl music... I mean what does SN - or AZ for that matter - have in common with Magma's music. Not much in my ears.
Ditto for Ruins and Dün, which sound a lot more RIO than Zeuhl to me. Potemkine has one one Zeuhl album, IMHO. I don't find Vortex being Zeuhl either >> their debut is JR/F ala Out Of Focus and Thanatos is RIO. Nebelnest and Xaal are much more Crison-derived than Zeuhl, IMHO.

Art Zoyd, and especially the early band (until 1982) were *admittedly* highly informed by Magma. Musique Pour L'Odyssee is the closest they came to a "pure" Zeuhl album, and Zaboitzeff himself has spoken on this. Shub-Niggurath were obviously influenced by certain aspects of the Zeuhl spectrum, as evident when they were included on the Enneade compilation. They were ALSO included on the Douze Pour Un compilation of AYAA artists, although never formally attached to either that label or the RIO movement. The fact that they brought the music further and into other terrain, does not distract from this assessment. Ruins were formed as a Magma covers band. And anyway this is not how the concepts of "genre" work in the first place; The Byrds didn't cease being a rock group when doing country tunes, you know, and it isn't as if a musical expression can't be heavy rock and psychedelic at the same time - it's not "the one or the other".

Although I suppose one cannot possibly be both "crossover prog" and "eclectic prog" at the same time; one has to choose between those clear cut idioms.

[Trane]

Art Zoyd, and especially the early band (until 1982) were *admittedly* highly informed by Magma. Musique Pour Odyssee is the closest they came to a "pure" Zeuhl album, and Zaboitzeff himself has spoken on this. Shub-Niggurath were obviously influenced by certain aspects of the Zeuhl spectrum, as evident when they were included on the Enneade compilation. They were ALSO included on the Douze Pour Un compilation of AYAA artists, although never formally attached to either that label or the RIO movement. The fact that they brought the music further and into other terrain, does not distract from this assessment. Ruins were formed as a Magma covers band. And anyway this is not how the concepts of "genre" work in the first place; The Byrds didn't cease being a rock group when doing country tunes, you know, and it isn't as if a musical expression can't be heavy rock and psychedelic at the same time - it's not "the one or the other".

Overall, I'd agree that not everything is black or white... but I'm always inclusive, rather than exclusive.... So including AZ, UZ (or even ABBA, if you really wished) in zeuhl would be fine with me

Although I suppose one cannot possibly be both "crossover prog" and "eclectic prog" at the same time; one has to choose between those clear cut idioms.

ah, don't get me starting on that single-genre PA idiocy

[zravkapt]

I've always thought the vocals of Thierry Zaboitzeff (whether with Zoyd or solo) were very Magmaesque.

[Scrotum Scissor]

I've always thought the vocals of Thierry Zaboitzeff (whether with Zoyd or solo) were very Magmaesque.

On the early works, at least. Not really when you get to that coughy Waits-from-hell vox of Berlin. IMO.

[ProgUK]

C'mon guys there must be more than 10 Zeuhl fans here!

[NogbadTheBad]

C'mon guys there must be more than 10 Zeuhl fans here!

We are a small but militant cabal.

[rael74]

C'mon guys there must be more than 10 Zeuhl fans here!

Turn that figure upto 11 - I'm loving this stuff for the first time.
Goodbye Aja this summer, hello Attahk

[TheH]

Magma-Live : Hhai
Dün-Eros
Eskaton-4-Visions
Universal Totem Orchestra - Rituale Alieno
Rahmann – Rahmann
Eider Stellaire - I
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite
Bondage Fruit - II
Koenji Hyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
Jannick Top - Infernal Machina

[Poisoned Youth]

Tough to do anything like this, but I will try to restrict it to French groups and only one album per band.


One Shot - Ewaz Vader
Setna - Guerison
Magma - MDK
Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Eider Stellaire (K001)
Dun - Eros
Neom - Arkana Temporis
Zao - Z=7L
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite

[ProgUK]

I love pretty much all of what is listed here, but the Shub Niggurath and Koenji Hyakkei are a really tough listen.
I guess if they lack the jazz fusion inflection in the music, i just cant get into it. I'm trying.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

I love pretty much all of what is listed here, but the Shub Niggurath and Koenji Hyakkei are a really tough listen.
I guess if they lack the jazz fusion inflection in the music, i just cant get into it. I'm trying.

you're not alone bro

check out the ones from my list that weren't on anyone else's list for Zeuhl with a heavy dose of Fusion