Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
I tend to agree that those bands are at the non fusiony end of the Zeuhl gene pool. Still great, I love the full range, they have enough influences to be included in the discussion.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
My Magma pick is Live/Hhaï (Köhntark). My top 10 of "All Other" is the following (in no particular order):
BBI - BBI
Caillou - Caillou
Dun - Eros
Alan Eckert Quartet - Alain Eckert Quartet
Eskaton 4 Visions
Neom - Arkana Temporis
Rhùn - Fanfare du Chaos
Setna - Cycle I
Jannick Top - Infernal Machina
Zao - Shekina
Magma : Kohntarkosz
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Abus Dangereux : Le Quatrieme Mouvement
Dun : Eros
Patrick Gauthier : Bebe Godzilla
Jean Philippe Goude : Drones
Jean Paul Prat : Masal
Rahmann
Yochk'o Seffer : Ima
Laurent Thibault : Mais on ne Peut pas Rever Tout le Temps
Weidorje
Zao : Z=7L
Not really for both.
Zeuhl influence on HF mainly comes from their former bassist Miyano Tatsuya being very strongly influenced by Jannick Top / Bernard Paganotti's style.
Compositionally they don't have too many similarity with Magma, but stronger influence from Univers Zero / Present school with loudness,energy of hard rock.
Zao-Kawana is pretty awesome too!
Which is an admirable attitude towards stuff. However, you'd might want to check out Koenji's fourth album first, Angherr Shisspa, seeing how this actually *IS* highly fusion-laden and more or less forsakens the previously prevalent heaviness (although remains quite manic still).
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Perhaps a Rank Your Top Five All-Time Zeuhl Bands thread is in order...
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Dun - Eros
Magma - Udu Wudu
Rahmann – Rahmann
Sotos - s/t
Archaia - s/t
Corima - Quetzalcoatl
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite
Koenji - Viva Koenji
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Guapo 5 Suns
Potemkine
Archaia
Much love to
Shub Niggurath introduction
Koenji Hyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
Setna - Guerison
Ruins Live Mandala 2000
Altaïs
and 2 younger excelent bands not mentioned I think
Rhùn
https://youtu.be/Pt0OYDEctJE
Syncopated Silence
https://youtu.be/-KUYvBhXYmw
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I saw them at Wurzburg with Poil and Present
twaz great
I never understood why some of these bands were labelled as Zeuhl when they sounded nothing like Magma? To me there is one true Zeuhl band
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
They never made an album
I'm rather late to the party, so I hope that someone is still reading this.
I am actually of the camp who does not particularly like jazz/fusion, so I'd be very interested in recommendations for Zeuhl music that is the least jazz/fusion influenced (besides Shub Niggurath, which I already know).
Also, for reference, Kohntarkosz (studio version) is far and away my favorite Magma album (and piece).
Many thanks.
Try Unit Wail, Guapo - 5 Suns, Archaia, Koenjihyakkei, Eskaton & Combat Astronomy - Dreams No Longer Hesitate. Not much jazz influence in that lot.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Thank you very much for the quick reply & recommendations.
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