Anyone Following Anderson-Ponty Kickstarter Debacle?

[Hot Ego Selected]

Explain to me why a Jon Anderson project would need funds.......SMFH

Kickstarter allows them far greater control over this album/event than going through a label. They have a management and legal team behind them to look after the other bits of the project.

[JKL2000]

My own guess is that the reality is somewhere between the two extremes. I very highly doubt Jon or JL went into this with the intention of scamming their fans. But I also doubt it was just an innocent mistake by the management team. More likely, I think that Jon decided he just didn't want to do a studio album (writing, recording, not easy, you know...) but the kickstarter money had already been collected, and a lot likely spent, so the fallback was the BS about a misunderstanding...

That's the kind of thing I suspect too.

[Adrian]

Jon has been promising things for several decades now without being held accountable.. I tend to wait and see the product before committing dollars to it.. Almost fell for the Igor / Anderson release and of course lots of folks bought into the "boxset" that to my knowledge was never fully completed..

Yeah, this appears to be nothing new for Jon. I love the man's creativity and spiritual vision, but he seems to flit from idea to idea, leaving a lot of promised projects half-done or never realized at all. There's not just the Igor-Jon project, but also the sequel to Olias, The Anderson-Rabin-Wakeman project, and who knows what else.

I didn't realize there were problems with the Ponty project, but I can't say I'm surprised. All this, after Jon walked away from Michael Lewis and the Inventioning project, leaving Lewis to wonder what had happened (at least judging by his Facebook posts at the time).

[Reginod]

http://andersonponty.com/

[Jerjo]

I'm just glad to see that downbytheriver melted down in record time rather than fouling up the joint with his bullshit for a few weeks. Christ, what a jerk.

[3LockBox]

This just in: everything Jon Anderson says should be taken with a big ol' grain of salt. Everything.

[Hot Ego Selected]

Yeah, this appears to be nothing new for Jon. I love the man's creativity and spiritual vision, but he seems to flit from idea to idea, leaving a lot of promised projects half-done or never realized at all. There's not just the Igor-Jon project, but also the sequel to Olias, The Anderson-Rabin-Wakeman project, and who knows what else.

I didn't realize there were problems with the Ponty project, but I can't say I'm surprised. All this, after Jon walked away from Michael Lewis and the Inventioning project, leaving Lewis to wonder what had happened (at least judging by his Facebook posts at the time).

Michael received just an email from Jon telling him he was taking their manager Jim Lewis and Jean Luc Ponty and forming another band without him.

[Gruno]

I'm just glad to see that downbytheriver melted down in record time rather than fouling up the joint with his bullshit for a few weeks. Christ, what a jerk.

I can't stand trolls!

[rapidfirerob]

Jamie Glaser, the guitarist in the APB posted the album is done and is being mixed, on his Facebook page.

[Rand Kelly]

Jon Anderson
Again thank you all for your kind thoughts and words regarding this sinus problem, I will be better very soon, I was told by my specialist at UCLA that I will be a different person after the operation, I said will I be able to play the violin, he said yes of course, wow!!! I thought now that's cool...Jon

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Hi all..thanks so much for your messages. Its a crazy ride right now
we have about a week to go to finish the Anderson Ponty Band record ( I have 4 songs to go, guitars and vocals. Im mixing and mastering the Walt Carroll album
and I will be on tour with the amazing Alan Hewitt and One Nation band by the end of the month, starting with Guitar Center Sessions TV, and then shows in Boston, Chicago, Detroit and LA I believe... all weekend dates. I will keep you all posted as we confirm the cities and dates. Here I am recording one of the songs for the Alan Hewitt band.
Hope to see you at our upcoming shows starting the weekend of Feb 26th
Thank you to William Gelvin ( GELVIN GUITARS) Tom Cram ( DigiTech)
using GNX 3000 and RP 10000 for this album and tour

[Phlakaton]

The documentary on Morgan Agren was a nice little kickstarter and was as much as I can tell - a success. Plus it was just a damn good documentary. I hope most of these stay on the smaller side - asking for millions of dollars always makes me laugh - and then I never actually hear about those following through for some reason or another.

[Scott Bails]

Jamie Glaser, the guitarist in the APB posted the album is done and is being mixed, on his Facebook page.

Mixed, and re-recorded?

Jon Anderson
Again thank you all for your kind thoughts and words regarding this sinus problem, I will be better very soon, I was told by my specialist at UCLA that I will be a different person after the operation,

One that can actually complete a project?

we have about a week to go to finish the Anderson Ponty Band record ( I have 4 songs to go, guitars and vocals.

Which album are we talking about?? Are they, in fact, doing a studio album? Or are they re-recording/dubbing for the "live" album?

[wilsoib]

Mixed, and re-recorded?



One that can actually complete a project?




Which album are we talking about?? Are they, in fact, doing a studio album? Or are they re-recording/dubbing for the "live" album?

Who knows? There hasn't been a proper Kickstarter update since December. They seem to have no interest in updating their investors. According to Jamie Glaser's FB, he is replacing all the guitar parts recorded in Aspen which will make the DVD interesting viewing.

[Jon]

I doubt it's a scam. Just poorly managed and communicated.

A poor word choice on my part, but on three occasions I not only did not receive the promised perks and my inquiries were ignored.

[bondegezou]

Which album are we talking about?? Are they, in fact, doing a studio album? Or are they re-recording/dubbing for the "live" album?

This is about replacing all the guitar parts in the live album, which were originally played by Jamie Dunlap (their second guitarist after dumping Michael Lewis), with parts recorded by Jamie Glaser (their third guitarist).

As for Kickstarter more generally, I have only ever supported 2 Kickstarter projects: Dave Kerzner's New World and Dylan Howe's Subterranean. Both delivered and did so beyond my expectations.

Henry

[Scott Bails]

Okay.

So, they're replacing all of Dunlap's guitar parts, and Anderson is re-doing vocals and guitar.

What, exactly, is going to be "live" about this album?

[Garden Dreamer]

You should go for it. Stranger things have happened.

Read the comments there - "Where's my t-shirt?"... "I haven't received my photo".... etc. etc.

[Gruno]

Okay.

So, they're replacing all of Dunlap's guitar parts, and Anderson is re-doing vocals and guitar.

What, exactly, is going to be "live" about this album?

The audience.

[bRETT]

Kickstarter allows them far greater control over this album/event than going through a label. They have a management and legal team behind them to look after the other bits of the project.

A label might suggest something objectionable, like they use perfectly good live guitar on a live album.

[NogbadTheBad]

So far I've kickstarted

Alek Redfearn & The Eyesores Album
Julie Slick Album
MoeTar Tour
Romantic Warriors 1 & 2 Documentaries

Loved all of them.

[Scott Bails]

A label might suggest something objectionable, like they use perfectly good live guitar on a live album.

[bondegezou]

Okay.

So, they're replacing all of Dunlap's guitar parts, and Anderson is re-doing vocals and guitar.

What, exactly, is going to be "live" about this album?

No. The post you're reading was poorly formatted, the first bit was by Anderson but the second bit by Glaser. Glaser is doing guitar and (backing) vocals to replace Dunlap. As far as we know, Anderson's original live parts, as Ponty's and everyone else's, are mostly preserved. (I'm sure they've done some touch-ups.)

Henry

[helix]

APB bands 4th guitarist:

[moecurlythanu]

I'm assuming either a post was deleted or the OPer blew up in another thread to get himself banned? Surely nothing here?

[Jerjo]

I'm assuming either a post was deleted or the OPer blew up in another thread to get himself banned? Surely nothing here?

OP lasted one day on PE. Basically he was banned from a Yes forum. He signed up here and started a thread asking that someone here to let him use their account so he could send some messages back to some "friends" on the forum. In all likelihood he was a troll that got banned from here last year after getting kicked off a Yes forum. He went back and forth a little with Sean, then the owner of the Yes forum showed up to counter the OP's self-righteous arguments, Our Benevolent Overlord suggested that given his history of not getting along with people on forums he should probably just go out and get a life. That's not an exact quote but the thread is gone. Then the OP got banned and then came back under another account to bitch about being "censored", thus proving what an ass he is. That thread got booted, along with the new account. Life on PE continues and the Republic stands. We are a better world for it.