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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    I just discovered that the firmware for my Panasonic plasma no longer updates. The Amazon streaming is particularly out of date. I'm going to get a Fire Stick as a temporary fix but I suppose by next year I'll be shopping for a new TV. When do the new models come out, after the CES?
    If you get a Fire Stick, be sure it's the newest 4K model. It allows audio pass-through for higher quality sound playback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    If you get a Fire Stick, be sure it's the newest 4K model. It allows audio pass-through for higher quality sound playback.
    Yeh but does it support Netflix’s Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos output like the Apple TV 4K?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firth View Post
    Yeh but does it support Netflix’s Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos output like the Apple TV 4K?
    It does support Dolby Atmos.
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    I got a notice from either Panasonic or Amazon saying that the software on my Panasonic plasma would no longer be updated (yeah, no shit, it had been clunky for a year). But the email gave me a code for $25 off a new Fire Stick (even the 4K!). There's a back-to-college sale on Amazon so I was able to use the coupon code to get another stick for $14. It will rotate between the bedroom/office TVs. The interface has worked quite well in the living room although setting up all the passwords/codes is a pain. My wife noticed that when you paused a scene on prime, it will give you little icons saying what actor is in the scene. It's saved a few arguments while streaming X Files.
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    how old is that Panasonic? what model?
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    2012 Panasonic VIERA TC-P55ST50
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    That Viera is 3 years younger than my dumb 50 inch Viera Plasma. TVs should be dumb and provide the video inputs possible. Let an external box which can be updated more easily handle streaming and audio pickoff. It’s taken way too long get TV designs updated to handle updated audio output (Like hdmi 2.1 or EARC). Let the receiver pick the audio off and send the video to a stream box and then to the TV.

    PS that Viera has the display panel that Panasonic started making after getting the Pioneer Kuro patent. Still looks great on HD content. Just doesn’t upscale like current 4kUHD models. I looked at a Samsung 75” 8k Q900 at Best Buy yesterday. Not going to buy, but no LED-LCD tv has lower screen reflections than that, and it looks fabulous off axis, almost as good as an OLED. An OLED has to be in a dark room just like that plasma to appreciate the dynamic range. A good buy for now would be a 65 inch Samsung Q80 which is good on reflections and off axis, but ~$1900.

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    The 75 Q900 was $6000.

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    If you're contemplating buying ANYTHING electronic, better do it before December when the next round of tariffs kick in.

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    If you're contemplating buying ANYTHING electronic, better do it before December when the next round of tariffs kick in.
    You mean the tariffs that are on, then off, then on, then off, then on....?
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    So what's the latest on video technology and availability? I assume that instead of tariffs we're now dealing with supply chain issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    So what's the latest on video technology and availability? I assume that instead of tariffs we're now dealing with supply chain issues.
    There are no supply chain issues with streaming video...the direction the industry seems to be going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    So what's the latest on video technology and availability? I assume that instead of tariffs we're now dealing with supply chain issues.
    For home TVs and one gaming monitor it’s the QD—OLED technology going on sale this year. OLED TVs have a white pixel to help it achieve brighter highlights, but that makes color inaccurate. So QD-OLED has a blue oled layer display and the blue light for each pixel passes to red and green pixels composed of quantum dots which convert the blue to the appropriate color. Blue pixels are a pass through. Much more efficient and achieves color volume and brightness that no OLED has achieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firth View Post
    For home TVs and one gaming monitor it’s the QD—OLED technology going on sale this year. OLED TVs have a white pixel to help it achieve brighter highlights, but that makes color inaccurate. So QD-OLED has a blue oled layer display and the blue light for each pixel passes to red and green pixels composed of quantum dots which convert the blue to the appropriate color. Blue pixels are a pass through. Much more efficient and achieves color volume and brightness that no OLED has achieved.
    And that's exactly what I came here looking for. Thanks, Firth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    And that's exactly what I came here looking for. Thanks, Firth!
    While QD-OLED TVs are surprisingly priced economically compared to top performing TVs in recent years, they are limited to 55 and 65 inch sizes for now. Eventually it’s expected in 2023 that larger sizes will be a available and price will be good. The off axis performance with color is like plasma, which is very important for large screen TVs because of the larger off axis angles of pixel locations.

    MicroLED TVs still only apply to billboard size TVs and I wonder if technologists will ver get the price and density down to the room size TVs.

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    So I was staying at my brother's a couple weeks ago and spent a fair amount of time in front of his big 4K OLED whatever-the-fuck TV. It seemed to me that often the picture looked more like CGI on some programs. Others were almost 3D. Is this the fault of the video feed or the TV itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    So I was staying at my brother's a couple weeks ago and spent a fair amount of time in front of his big 4K OLED whatever-the-fuck TV. It seemed to me that often the picture looked more like CGI on some programs. Others were almost 3D. Is this the fault of the video feed or the TV itself?
    Most likely the settings on the TV. These fancy-pants TVs come from the factory with the color saturation and the sharpness levels turned WAY up, the the point where everything looks cartoonish. If you back them down a bit -- comparing the picture to real life until it looks "normal" -- you can get a much more realistic image. I know they do this in stores to make the TVs "pop" to shoppers walking by. I do not know why the factory settings are all +11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Most likely the settings on the TV. These fancy-pants TVs come from the factory with the color saturation and the sharpness levels turned WAY up, the the point where everything looks cartoonish. If you back them down a bit -- comparing the picture to real life until it looks "normal" -- you can get a much more realistic image. I know they do this in stores to make the TVs "pop" to shoppers walking by. I do not know why the factory settings are all +11.

    There is a change of heart BTW. More of the high end TVs have what is called filmmaker mode that gives a calibrated, but not perfectly calibrated mode. Sony never did the shock and awe, default video, setting, but the did have a Vivid mode. Calibration is done for review of TVs and involves an instrument sampling light from the screen.

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