Anyone else watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver? It's really FUNNY!
Anyone else watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver? It's really FUNNY!
What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound (2112)
Forensic Files I believe, I forget what channel.Originally Posted by SteveSly
I watched some of the HBO series called Heaven's Gate: The Cult of Cuts. It was pretty decent. I got interested in them when I saw more or less, their farewells posted on Youtube, and then started looking more into them, with their silly names, and such. I found it hard to believe that so many were duped by it, but evidently it filled something in them that was missing.
I thought I'd finish it last night but fell asleep way earlier than I intended. Woke up in the middle of the night and looked through some books I had checked out of the library a couple weeks ago to discover one of them was Elizabeth Kendall's The Phantom Prince, which both the Zac Effron movie, Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile, and the docuseries Ted Bundy: Falling for a Killer were based on.How's that for serendipity? lol So far, it's been good and if she didn't have a ghost writer, she's really good.
The first book I read about him was in '85 called The Only Living Witness, written by Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth. That was a really good book but did nothing to dispel the mystique about him. The next one I read immediately after was true crime writer Ann Rule's The Stranger Beside Me. She actually knew Ted when they both worked at a suicide hotline. Her book wasn't particularly interesting, from what I recall. Michaud and Aynesworth also wrote a follow-up around 2000 called Conversations With a Killer which was the basis for the Netflix doc. When I first found out about the doc, I discovered it was based on the book and read it. That was a good one, too, and one that finally dispelled the mystique about him. If you've never read any of them, I'd recommend the Michaud/Aynesworth books.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
Contrary to popular myth, psychopaths are not necessarily criminals. Many corporate executives are. Their psychopathy is what enables them to succeed in business.
"Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"--Dalai Lama
I saw the Greta Thunberg: A Year To Change the World special on PBS this past week (Earth Day), and enjoyed it. Although due to her presence being everywhere it seems at times, I was a bit reluctant, but it was really worth seeing and she travels all over the world until Covid hits. Streams on Hulu now or maybe you can catch it elsewhere later.
Michaud & Aynesworth discuss in The Only Living Witness how his eyes would change when he talked about the killings. He had bright blue eyes which, according to them, would turn black when remembering what he'd done. Interestingly, his eyes are mentioned numerous times in the Amazon docuseries, with one former cop talking about how he couldn't stop staring at Bundy's eyes. Bundy himself said there was something within him that wasn't him. That sounds like typical serial killer bullshit in an attempt to avoid responsibility. The interesting thing, tho, is that other serial killers have talked about how they felt they weren't in control when they were in the process of killing, raping, and/or mutilating. As if they were passengers in their own body watching the event take place. Psychologically speaking, I suppose this could be explained as dissociation but I've never heard of or read that to be any kind of diagnosis for this phenomena.
Something I'm 99.99% inclined not to believe is what Ed and Lorraine Warren wrote in a book that I read many years ago: the possibility that serial killers are possessed. It could, afterall, be an explanation for the "other entity" some serial killers have spoken of. If you believe in that sort of thing. Personally, I'm of the opinion the Warrens are scam artists. They were made famous as investigators into the Amityville haunting.
As for the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths, psychologists fall into two camps: (1) there is no difference and those terms aren't used in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, rather it's referred to as antisocial personality disorder, and (2) those who work in criminology where a sociopath is made and a psychopath is a combination nature/nurture. Dr Robert Hare, author of the psychopathy checklist, states "sociopathy is preferred by those that see the causes as due to social factors and early environment, and the term psychopathy preferred by those who believe that there are psychological, biological, and genetic factors involved in addition to environmental factors." (Wikipedia)
Yeah, and one of the most interesting statistics I've seen is that psychopathy exists in ~1% of the population while that number jumps to 6% among CEOs.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
Still asking. LOL
What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound (2112)
Yes , for years. You can learn alot , and it can be extremly funny. His takedown of a certain then canidate during the 2016 primaries was vicious , complete and incredably funny while maintaining the accuracy his well researched pieces are known for. Classic Oliver .
Love it. One of the best written shows on TV. The only show I know where I can be angry and laughing at the same time. He expressed the outrage I felt daily between 2016-2020 perfectly.
Great! I love this show!
What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound (2112)
We DVR it every Sunday. The show is very funny.
Having worked in management for one of the largest companies in the world, this statistic does not totally surprise me. It takes a certain type of person to be able (or even want) to rise to the top level of a large company. It is not to say that all of them are wacko’s, but I think there is some level ego involved in having a desire to rise to the upper levels of a corporation. I knew a lot of great people that worked above my level, but I also knew some who were a bit off kilter in various ways. I think the same can be said for politics. It takes a certain type if individual to want to get into politics, even at the lower levels. The ones who rise to the top are often at the expense of their rivals. I just finished reading John Boehner’s book which was remarkably interesting. He talks about how power can corrupt people who start out with good intentions. It does not happen to everybody, but in his career he was surprised at how many it did happen to.
Yes, I think that is it.
You should check out Crazy, Not Insane on HBO. Psychiatrist Dorothy Otnow stirs controversy for her views on serial killers and the death penalty. She's the one who did Bundy's last interviews and her views on how and why serial killers come to be and how to deal with them are interesting.
Carry On My Blood-Ejaculating Son - JKL2000
I almost don't believe anyone in that doc. They all seem to be playing what is a game to them. The fact people believe this nonsense is really scary. How low have we gotten when supposed intelligent people have fallen for this hook, line and sinker?
Carry On My Blood-Ejaculating Son - JKL2000
If you look at the two of the most glaring traits of psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder - narcissism and lack of empathy/remorse - it makes sense psychopaths would excel at being a CEO, doesn't it? It also makes you wonder if maybe people like Harvey Weinstein and Roger Ailes were psychopaths.
I saw that. It was interesting. I'd forgotten how she thought Bundy was on the continuum of DID (dissociative identity disorder, formerly multiple personality). Yeah, she's been controversial, alright. She's one of the leading researchers in DID and was a witness for the defense in serial killer Arthur Shawcross' trial. That, in itself, was controversial since apparently she was not a good witness and actually hurt the defense when the prosecution did a good job of discrediting her. Even the jury said she hurt the defense. She was also once criticized by the APA.
While I don't have nearly the interest in serial killers I once did, I do still find the psychology of it all interesting, as well as psychology in general. What makes things confusing for lay persons is how definitions/diagnoses continue changing. For example, psychopathy became known as sociopathy and then they were considered distinct before being lumped together as ASPD (and its related dissocial personality disorder). And even then, there isn't consensus. And then there's the example of multiple personality disorder that was changed to dissociative identity disorder, which many in the psychiatric profession don't even believe exists, citing some well known examples as doctors accidentally inducing false memories in the patient. Add to that some instances where people pulled the wool over their doctor's eyes and its not hard to wonder why psychiatry/psychology is not taken seriously by some people. Which is unfortunate, imo.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
Ted Bundy, knowing a sucker when he saw one, told the Reverend Idiot James Dobson that pornography was the root of all his problems.Add to that some instances where people pulled the wool over their doctor's eyes and its not hard to wonder why psychiatry/psychology is not taken seriously by some people.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Yeah, I remember that and I agree. I also think if Dobson knew that he didn't care because it played into his anti-porn crusade.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
Did you see the recent one on nursing homes/assisted living? So we researched with a heavy dose of outrage and humour.
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What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound (2112)
Very good points and narcissism / lack of empathy can be a big part of it with some people. Again, not all of them show those traits, but quite a few of them do.
Finished “Mr. Robot” tonight. In the end I really enjoyed it. Season II kind of lost me for a while, and it was not a perfect series as there where a few filler episodes, but overall, I dug it. The final season IV knocked it out of the park and I was satisfied with the finale. I watched a YouTube fan theory video about the Tyrell Wellick character that is something I suspected all along and to me totally makes sense. My wife did not pick up on it at all until after watching the video. To me the theory (which I think is true) makes the show even more brilliant. Anyway…….I won’t spoil anything for anyone who may not have seen the series, but I thought it was exceptionally good.
"psychopaths are not necessarily criminals. Many corporate executives are."
This is more accurate than I believe you intended.
Used to watch it a lot, but lost track, for some reason. I need to catch up. Love what he does.
We're going to be looking for this one, as we're dealing with these issues now, unfortunately.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
I went through all of this with my mother in 2016 & 2017 so if either of you need tips or advice or have questions, feel free to contact me. There's a lot to learn/navigate wrt insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid. Altho I suppose that wouldn't apply to Greg.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
Thanks. We're finding all of that out. The biggest issue, however, is my GF's parents. They're.....difficult.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
I started a show called Wayne last night on Prime. Synopsis:
Wayne, a 16 year-old Dirty Harry with a heart of gold, sets out on a small two stroke road bike from Boston to Florida with his new (girl)friend Del to get back the shit-hot 79' Trans-Am that was stolen from his father before he died.
It checks a lot of boxes:
• Humor that is sardonic and dark, plus a little that borders on slapstick
• Violence, but nothing over the top... for the most part
• Great acting from all involved; the two leads are great. A couple of supporting actors I'm sure you'll recognize, too: Mike O'Malley (Yes, Dear, My Name is Earl, and Justified) and Dean Winters (Allstate's Mayhem guy)
I don't think anyone in this thread wouldn't like this show. I couldn't help bingeing five episodes last night.
It premiered on YouTube Premium in 2019 but was cancelled after one season. It was then picked up by Amazon and premiered late 2020.
It scored an 8.4 on IMDb and 100%/94% on RottenTomatoes. How this show flew under the radar is a mystery. RT's critical consensus reads, "The most thoughtfully violent series you'll see all year, Wayne is a home run." And, apparently, "within five days of the series premiere, the first episode had accumulated over 10 million views." (Wikipedia)
According to Looper, the only reason this show got cancelled was because YouTube "got out of the scripted originals game." Hopefully, since it's been picked up by Amazon, they'll order a second season. But for the time being,the show is in limbo.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
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