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    Hey No Pride what a lucky man you are! I guess that it was one of your most awesome musical experience that you'll cherish forever... And certainly your father had so many great historical facts to tell you from the classical world, and I suppose very few manage to be for so much time in such a great orchestra!
    I didn't really appreciate it until I was about 18 and finally admitted to myself that classical music is great. My dad wrote and published a memoir called "The Symphonic Paradox" by Sam Denov. I think you can find it at Amazon. As for Brahms, I fell in love with his music when I took choir in college and we spent a whole semester working on his German Requiem, concluding with a performance with the college orchestra.

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    Allan Holdsworth - Then!
    Love that album! Allan and his band are on fire throughout! I'd say it's his best live album if it wasn't for Alan Paqua's amazing keyboard solos on the Holdsworth/Pasqua Band's "Blues For Tony."

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    I didn't really appreciate it until I was about 18 and finally admitted to myself that classical music is great. My dad wrote and published a memoir called "The Symphonic Paradox" by Sam Denov. I think you can find it at Amazon. As for Brahms, I fell in love with his music when I took choir in college and we spent a whole semester working on his German Requiem, concluding with a performance with the college orchestra.
    Thanks a lot for sharing it No Pride! It's a fascinating reading, I'm sure of that, the next week I'm going to look for it in some local library shop. I've been googling it and am happy to easily find info about it, so I found out in Wiki that indeed Reiner’s precise and economic interpretations and direction technique almost always led to personally abusive autocratic methods in the fifties and sixties. I guess that that whole issue refered to in the book began with him. On the other hand, Igor Stravinsky called the Chicago Symphony under Reiner "the most precise and flexible orchestra in the world", obviously (imo) a quite subjective statement, as it will all depend on the specific approach given by the conductor to each composer. Again, I'm happy to know a bit more about this fascinating world of the Classical Music
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Robson View Post
    I found out in Wiki that indeed Reiner’s precise and economic interpretations and direction technique almost always led to personally abusive autocratic methods in the fifties and sixties. I guess that that whole issue refered to in the book began with him. On the other hand, Igor Stravinsky called the Chicago Symphony under Reiner "the most precise and flexible orchestra in the world", obviously (imo) a quite subjective statement, as it will all depend on the specific approach given by the conductor to each composer. Again, I'm happy to know a bit more about this fascinating world of the Classical Music
    My dad (R.I.P.) had a lot of good Reiner stories. Though nobody in the orchestra liked him much personally, practically everybody agreed that he was a great conductor. I believe my dad thought he was the best he ever worked with... and he worked with many of them. Reiner liked to mess with individuals just to see if they could take it and just about everybody got their turn in the hot seat. He did have a good (if sarcastic) sense of humor though. Here's one of my favorite Reiner stories:

    They were going to be playing Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" and one of the percussionists walked into Reiner's office with a shotgun and a pail and asked him if he'd like to use it for the cannon blasts in the piece. Reiner replied, "No, the music is noisy enough as is and besides... I don't trust you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    My dad (R.I.P.) had a lot of good Reiner stories. Though nobody in the orchestra liked him much personally, practically everybody agreed that he was a great conductor. I believe my dad thought he was the best he ever worked with... and he worked with many of them. Reiner liked to mess with individuals just to see if they could take it and just about everybody got their turn in the hot seat. He did have a good (if sarcastic) sense of humor though. Here's one of my favorite Reiner stories:

    They were going to be playing Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" and one of the percussionists walked into Reiner's office with a shotgun and a pail and asked him if he'd like to use it for the cannon blasts in the piece. Reiner replied, "No, the music is noisy enough as is and besides... I don't trust you."
    So cool to hear that trivia No Pride, thanks!
    Fortunately I could feel F. Reiner's great interpretations on some of his recordings that I have, the '56 one of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No.2 with Arthur Rubinstein at the piano is a good example of that, and cool to know that your father was right there as one of the percusionists
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