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    He is baptized Lars but called Lasse. A bit like William is Bill, and Robert is Bob in English - Very common in Sweden, men can even be called Conny (from Conrad).
    Hollmer probably meant someone who lives on a a small island or peninsula.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    He is baptized Lars but called Lasse. A bit like William is Bill, and Robert is Bob in English - Very common in Sweden, men can even be called Conny (from Conrad).
    Hollmer probably meant someone who lives on a a small island or peninsula.

    Do you know any women called Conny ? ;-)

    A women can be called Connie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivetti View Post
    Do you know any women called Conny ? ;-)

    A women can be called Connie!
    Yes, but the pronounciation is the same.

    When I was a kid the one existing TV-channel sent an english-educational series for years called Connie and Walter. BTW here named Walter & Conny


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    Yes, but the pronounciation is the same.


    Not in swedish! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivetti View Post
    Not in swedish! :-)
    Hmmm...

    https://translate.google.com/#sv/da/Conny

    There is a little loudspeaker button to the left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    Hmmm...

    https://translate.google.com/#sv/da/Conny

    There is a little loudspeaker button to the left...
    You dont hear the difference between the two?
    In swedish there is a huge difference between the Y and the IE at the end of Conn...

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    From Wikipedia, on Fred Frith's Gravity: "Many of the tracks on Gravity consist of melodic lines woven into complex rhythmic structures taken from different folk music cultures. The time signatures are not the standard 3/4 or 4/4, but more complex signatures like 15/8.[12] Frith described in an interview how he arrived in Uppsala with his carefully written music sheets, only to find that Samla Mammas Manna could not read music. But when he played the music to them, he was "stunned by their ability to hear the details, especially the rhythmic details, that I had written""

    Freaking, devilishly incredible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post
    First time I heard them, I thought they were the Swedish Mothers
    Funny. I had the opportunity to shake hands with the much missed Lars Holmer and telling him that he was the Swedish Frank Zappa. He had a great laugh! And actually thanked me. Nah. Thank *you* Sir, for the wonderful music, I replied.

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    Lots of great musicians dont read or write scores (like Allan Holdsworth), so maybe the funny part is, that FF just assumed they could.

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    Not that funny an assumption, given the complicated multi-layered polyrhythmic nature of SMM's music.

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    ^^^ so is a lot of african drum music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentleFriend View Post
    Funny. I had the opportunity to shake hands with the much missed Lars Holmer and telling him that he was the Swedish Frank Zappa. He had a great laugh! And actually thanked me. Nah. Thank *you* Sir, for the wonderful music, I replied.
    I am a Zappa junkie, but I have to admit that the comparison is pretty valid in terms of style and quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    ^^^ so is a lot of african drum music.
    But that's cultural. Africans are raised with that music in their veins. I daresay the members of SMM had to LEARN Hollmer's compositions.

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    I watched this twice in a row last night. Not sure if this was posted on this thread but I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoyed it. The humor is infectious and the synergy/tight-knit playing is simply off the charts.

    EDIT: Silly Frankie - I am now seeing that Ian B posted this on the original post! Oh well, its worth another look perhaps!
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    Gregory Allan Fitzpatrick's Snorungarnas Symfoni - Hearing this for the 1st time....flippin' great! Who digs this one?
    If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.

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    <Raises hand> Really great, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Gregory Allan Fitzpatrick's Snorungarnas Symfoni - Hearing this for the 1st time....flippin' great! Who digs this one?
    I'm a big fan of this album, even though the music is not composed by the band or Lars Hollmer. One of my favorites, together with the one that follows, Schlagerns Mystik.

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    Gregory Allan Fitzpatrick's "Bildcirkus" (1978) is an interesting listen too. Not entirely SMM-like.

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    Nice, cheers guys.

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    Hasse Bruniusson a.o. plays Samla Mammas Manna
    Presumably: Hasse Bruniusson, Rikard Sjöblom, Roine Stolt and Håkan Almkvist

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    Oh man! Thanks for posting. I had no idea such a thing existed.
    I want to dynamite your mind with love tonight.

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    Hasse Bruniusson plays Samla Mammas Manna - from rehearsal desk - posted by Roine Stolt


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    I see that Wayside has restocked the 1st 5 Samla/Zamla CDs! (ordered)

    (Maybe Steve F. has some input on the following...)

    Portions of the Rock In Opposition concert at the New London Theatre, on 12 March 1978, were recorded:

    --Etron Fou Leloublan was recorded by Norman Jon Kissoon (who Discogs says ran a mobile recording unit called AHVS, Atom Heart Visual Sound), some of which appears on an album released in 2015.

    --A few minutes by Henry Cow are heard on the "Late" CD from their box sets; recorded by Hans Bruniusson of Samla.

    So, were any recordings made of Samla Mammas Manna? Did no one operate Hans' recorder while they were playing? Did AHVS record only Etron Fou?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_in_Cle View Post
    I see that Wayside has restocked the 1st 5 Samla/Zamla CDs! (ordered)

    (Maybe Steve F. has some input on the following...)

    Portions of the Rock In Opposition concert at the New London Theatre, on 12 March 1978, were recorded:

    --Etron Fou Leloublan was recorded by Norman Jon Kissoon (who Discogs says ran a mobile recording unit called AHVS, Atom Heart Visual Sound), some of which appears on an album released in 2015.

    --A few minutes by Henry Cow are heard on the "Late" CD from their box sets; recorded by Hans Bruniusson of Samla.

    So, were any recordings made of Samla Mammas Manna? Did no one operate Hans' recorder while they were playing? Did AHVS record only Etron Fou?
    The Etron show on the CD is a audience tape. As is the Bruniussson.

    Chris Cutler assured me decades ago that there was NO professional recordings made of the 3/78 RIO show.

    Are there other audience tapes? Probably! I’ve heard the UZ show.

    But they are ALL kind of sucky sonically….
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_in_Cle View Post
    I see that Wayside has restocked the 1st 5 Samla/Zamla CDs! (ordered)
    Thank you for posting this - I have also just ordered those same 5. Been wanting to get these for years and now is the time. I really hope someday we get a cd re-release of Hasse Bruniusson – Mannaminne (1983)

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