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    NEO was a French band, but not NEO.

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    This is not really strong hey! Forget 80s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonia_Mota View Post
    when did RUSH start? xx
    1968 so you are way off. However, their first album was in 1974 so you are still off by a decade.

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    Hm.

    I'd say some 99% of "80s Prog artists who began in the 80s" were not "British neo-prog". Many may have been "neo-prog", but not necessarily British. And a genuinely LARGE percentage were nothing near "neo-prog" at all, I'm happy to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    Anyone remember these? All would be called "Neo," I think, but all were Continental & 80s Prog.
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    Freia Music will release a 2-disk compilation of this Dutch band: https://thelastdetailnl.bandcamp.com...-other-stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Freia Music will release a 2-disk compilation of this Dutch band: https://thelastdetailnl.bandcamp.com...-other-stories
    Hmmm… I think that was the follow up band to Ywis.

    There are also some recent reissues (with a lot of bonus stuff) by Chandelier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheH View Post
    Hmmm… I think that was the follow up band to Ywis.
    Yes, first came Ywis, than The Last Detail and then Timelock.
    This compilation also features songs from the period before the name The Last Detail was born.
    The complete track-list is shown here: https://www.discogs.com/The-Last-Det...lease/13094913

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    Does Echolyn count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Yes, first came Ywis, than The Last Detail and then Timelock.
    This compilation also features songs from the period before the name The Last Detail was born.
    The complete track-list is shown here: https://www.discogs.com/The-Last-Det...lease/13094913
    I think I still own the Ywis album on LP and the Last Detail Tales and an EP on CD.
    Might have the first Timelock also.

    Never listend to those for twenty years or so..

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    iT BiTES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheH View Post
    I think I still own the Ywis album on LP and the Last Detail Tales and an EP on CD.
    Might have the first Timelock also.

    Never listend to those for twenty years or so..
    I have Ywis and I think the first Timelock. Can't find much information on the Last Detail. If I remember correctly a colleague of my dad played in that group. I visited a Kayak concert with him and some friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    Cardiacs!!!
    Prog artist???? NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndiSexgang View Post
    Prog artist???? NO.
    Indeed they are, Avant prog at its best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Indeed they are, Avant prog at its best.
    Some folks still don't know or quite understand what the term "avant prog" denotes, and often it doesn't help much if you explain it to them either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Indeed they are, Avant prog at its best.
    That kind of attribution is pretty recent, and probably pretty localized. None of the 80s Prog-Rock fanzines referred to them as such. Then it was either Prog-Rock or Prog/Punk, iirc.

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    They're Pronk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    That kind of attribution is pretty recent, and probably pretty localized. None of the 80s Prog-Rock fanzines referred to them as such. Then it was either Prog-Rock or Prog/Punk, iirc.
    But then again, neither did any music mags that I remember ever refer to ELO, Supertramp or Alan Parsons' Project as progressive rock or "prog" back then.

    In the end, the defining factor was a set of virtues and little else. Cardiacs fit the initial spirit, dedication and objective of progressive rock to a far further extent than some others whose sole "virtue" was that of fine imitation or replication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    But then again, neither did any music mags that I remember ever refer to ELO, Supertramp or Alan Parsons' Project as progressive rock or "prog" back then.
    Totally agree about ELO and Supertramp, and I don't consider them Progressive Rock bands to this day. I do think Alan Parsons Project was called Prog-Rock or Art-Rock pretty regularly in the 70s. If not in print media, then at least by radio jocks. I bought ToMaI when it came out. A song or two got airplay, and they got some run from the radio guys. I certainly thought at the time that I was buying an album that fit the niche with Yes and Genesis. Had they stayed true to the overall spirit and vision of the 1st 2 albums, instead of becoming more commercial, I dare say people today wouldn't argue if they were "Prog" or not.

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    I'll agree with It Bites - they wrote some great songs with actual hooks (blasphemy!) and their lead guitarist sounded NOTHING like Steve Hackett.

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    I still remember David Overstreet's blurb in his catalog for an It Bites album he had for sale... "It Bites? More like It Sucks. I still don't know why this is called Prog ."

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    Rousseau's first two albums, Flower in Asphalt and Retreat, were both very 70s sounding with Camel and early Genesis as the main influences.

    Jean Pascal Boffo's first album came out in 1986. French and not neo.

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