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    Quote Originally Posted by walt View Post
    Having "Strange Fruit" and "At Last I Am Free"(from Old Rottenhat) in your collection,whatever format you can get it on,is the way to go.
    Neither of the two songs you list are from Old Rottenhat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post

    I quite liked the "Going Back A Bit" double-CD that Virgin put out around the same time (mid-1990s) - it has some material by Soft Machine and Matching Mole plus various rarities.
    I like this too, but I think it goes for big money these days, which is why I didn't mention it.
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    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    Neither of the two songs you list are from Old Rottenhat!

    Oops, serves me right for reading the track lineup from "Compilation" without my glasses.


    The two tracks i mentioned are from "Nothing Can Stop Us."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    On The Radio as essential
    ...and BBC-Live
    Hell, they ain't even old-timey ! - Homer Stokes

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    I'm pretty sure that everything on BBC Live is included in On the Radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    I'm pretty sure that everything on BBC Live is included in On the Radio.
    Indeed. With the same crappy indexing. I actually lobbied to get it corrected but the Hux people (who are/were otherwise nice and competent) said Robert had approved the indexing, although it was clearly wrong. Oh well...

    Interestingly, the first time I ever heard this particular session was when I wrote to Robert after he mentioned in an interview that he'd heard it again and thought it was really good. Being the kind man he was, he made me a cassette of it, sent in a makeshift parcel consisting of a recycled packet of cuban cigarettes (or so I remember - I've long thrown it away !). Must have been a couple of years before it came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    I like this too, but I think it goes for big money these days
    Is this the green one that starts with the BBC rendition of "Moon In June" and ends with "The Internationale"? Had it and sold it. Bugger.

    One of few places to get a physical copy of "I'm a Believer".
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    This has been the Book of the Week on BBC Radio 4 all week, abridged in 5 parts by Katrin Williams and read by Julian Rhind-Tutt. It should be available on iPlayer for the next few weeks.

    Somewhere deep in the BBC must lurk someone with the taste and courage to propose scheduling for prime-time listening a biography of a man most listeners will never have heard of. Full marks to Aunty for going with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groon View Post
    Somewhere deep in the BBC must lurk someone with the taste and courage to propose scheduling for prime-time listening a biography of a man most listeners will never have heard of. Full marks to Aunty for going with it.
    Indeed, but then again they have a sense about "intriguing" case matter - it's their job to have so. And you'd have a field day with making, say, a biopic about Wyatt. Post-beatnik era, Swingin' London and the turbulence of the late 60s and early 70s, celebrities galore, drop from third floor and paraplegic, music, politics, love, friendships and hardships, the 80s and the fall of the cold war, the 90s and social apathy - you name them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    And you'd have a field day with making, say, a biopic about Wyatt.
    I'd certainly pay good money to see a full reenactment of the Hatfield and the North augmented gig at the Roundhouse in April '74 with Robert, the Northettes and assorted keyboard and wind players. Of course there would only be about 30 seconds of it in the film, but the special DVD edition would have the full show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    I'd certainly pay good money to see a full reenactment of the Hatfield and the North augmented gig at the Roundhouse in April '74 with Robert, the Northettes and assorted keyboard and wind players. Of course there would only be about 30 seconds of it in the film, but the special DVD edition would have the full show.
    Who'd play Wyatt? I hope Val Kilmer is retired by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loosefish View Post
    Just finished reading this. What a remarkable man!

    I love Robert and his music, but i now realise i've never heard Dondestan or Old Rottenhat or indeed either of the albums by Matching mole. I know what i'll be listening to the next few days.
    I arrived last night at about a third of the way through the book (leaving Softs)

    Been going slowly with this book because I'm relistening to the albums as the book goes along.... and since I don't own everyone mentioned (Prom's , MNoisette, BBC stuff), I have to wait until the reserved albums arrive at my local library system outlet to keep reading the book...

    Yeah, there are some official 80's Wyatt albums I haven't heard (or a very long time ago)
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Indeed, but then again they have a sense about "intriguing" case matter - it's their job to have so. And you'd have a field day with making, say, a biopic about Wyatt. Post-beatnik era, Swingin' London and the turbulence of the late 60s and early 70s, celebrities galore, drop from third floor and paraplegic, music, politics, love, friendships and hardships, the 80s and the fall of the cold war, the 90s and social apathy - you name them.
    You should pitch that to Mike Leigh.I'd watch it.


    Who'd play Wyatt? I hope Val Kilmer is retired by then.
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    ^^^

    Brian Blessed, huh? Well, he's probly a BIT too old (to play the young Robert at least) - but at least he's a socialist!
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    I confess, I'm joining this party very late, but after I bought the book a few months ago I've finished it right now.
    Although I have quite a lot of albums on which Wyatt performs, I'm not a real fan. I wanted to read his story because of his involvement with the Canterbury Scene and I'm not disappointed (although I want to read the full story from Calyx some day ).
    Besides that it's a beautiful story of an artist who has always followed his own path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Indeed, but then again they have a sense about "intriguing" case matter - it's their job to have so..

    Very true and one of the many reasons why the BBC should exist.

    As an ex-employee I'd also add that they can take chances here because on this slot the real risks are low - the audience is loyal and open-minded, and the costs of making the show are so low they may as well not exist. Unlike TV, if people switch off nobody's career gets screwed.

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