Agree, but OMS is quite possibly among the five ultimate space-rock albums of all time.Originally Posted by Flightwave
Agree, but OMS is quite possibly among the five ultimate space-rock albums of all time.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
That's fine. But... err... you can't count.
anything in that list not prog in your mind?? I don't give a hoot!!And what's with all the 12's and a couple of 13's?
You didn't explicitly state what base the number 10 is inThat's fine. But... err... you can't count.Some people work in base 12 and base 13. And some just use free-base.
Hello There Folks -
Haven't posted much in recent times....but want to ease myself back into the mix here!
Regarding this thread, here are my ten I'd grab (1989 and newer) to get me through after whatever disaster comes about.
With no specific order in significance but to mention that my choices have had the same 'wow factor' as many of my 'pre 1989' artists had given me!
1. Club Foot Orchestra - Presents Sherlock JR.
2. Ed Palermo Big Band - Oh! No not Jazz!
3. Paris Combo - Living Room
4. Flower Kings - Back in the World of Adventures
5. Steven Wilson - The Raven who refused to Sing
6. Thinking Plague - In this Life
7. Brian Wilson - Smile
8. Hamster Theatre - Carnival Detournement
9. After Crying - Overground Music
10. William D. Drake - Rising of the Lights
Man! I could go for ten more as well......
Are they all 'Pprog'????
Chris Buckley
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In no particular order:
Änglagård - Hybris
Cardiacs - Sing to God
Jack o' the Clock - All My Friends
Thinking Plague - In Extremis
Chrome Hoof - Chrome Black Gold
Anathema - We're Here Because We're Here
Cheer-Accident - No Ifs, Ands, Or Dogs
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History
Iamthemorning - ~
Steven Wilson - The Raven that Refused to Sing (and other stories)
Honorable Mentions
Knifeworld - The Unravelling
Opeth - Still Life
Thank You Scientist - Maps of Non-existent Places
Secret Chiefs 3 - Book of Souls: Folio A
Mike Keneally - You Must Be This Tall
I see you are a kindred spirit. Almost included 'Through and Through' on my list in addition to the three that are also on my list
well, the OP didnt call it 'Top 10 Symph albums post 89'
there are many styles of Prog(ressive Rock music) and many of us count Fusion as one of the many styles.
That's why I didnt only list Symph. I included Avant, Fusion, Spacerock, etc.
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
I did notice that we have three matches. What can I say; you have great taste!I see you are a kindred spirit. Almost included 'Through and Through' on my list in addition to the three that are also on my list
There's plenty of folks that don't consider fusion to be prog. I don't really care to debate the issue, I've got you for that.
Van Der Graaf Generator - Trisector
Jethro Tull Catfish Rising
Citizen Cain Somewhere But Yesterday
Citizen Cain Raising The Stones
Tempest Turn Of The Wheel
Niacin Deep
Bruford Levin Upper Extremeties
Karn/Torn/Bozzio - Polytown
Jeff Beck Live At Ronnie Scott's
David Cross Exiles
and there's plenty of people who dont consider Avant or Spacerock to be Prog... that's their problem. As for me, having been there, I consider (beginning in the late 60s) all forms of combining Rock music with other music styles in progressive ways to be part of the worldwide Prog(ressive Rock music) movement. Had Jazz Rock started a decade before Symph Rock then perhaps there would be a reason not to consider them part of the same musical movement.
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
1. Anathema-Weather Systems(I rank this with the classics from the seventies)
2. Storm Corrosion-Storm Corrosion (Same)
3. Spocks Beard-Snow
4. Porcupine Tree-In Absentia
5. IQ-Dark Matter
6. Riverside-Shrine of New Generation Slaves
7. Radiohead-OK Computer
8. Steven Wilson-The Raven That Refused To Sing
9. Opeth-Heritage
10.Marillion-Afraid Of Sunlight
There's plenty of folks that don't consider fusion to be prog. I don't really care to debate the issue, I've got you for that.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Those are Trane's Gnosis ratings for the albums, its on a scale of 1-15.That's fine. But... err... you can't count.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
NICE!!
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
You're preaching to the choir, bro! When I first came to PE, I was surprised to discover that a lot of proggers don't like fusion. In the early '70s, I never thought of The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever and Weather Report as belonging to a different genre as Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant and King Crimson (aside from noticing there was more improvisation in the former than in the latter). It was all just great creative music that mixed rock, jazz and classical elements. I was already into rock, jazz and classical music by that point and I thought it was really cool that they were all cross-breeding. I had no idea there was musical segregation amongst it all until much later.
But I've learned a lot about people's musical tastes from a decade of PE. Arguing the point has gotten old and fruitless, so when people ask for a list of prog this or that, I try to think about what they mean when they say "prog" and be compliant, because I do like a fair share of that which is generally considered as such. There are enough folks here that are into jazz and/or fusion, so I can talk about that stuff with them, thankfully! If it wasn't for them, I might feel a little like a don't belong here. But I do... I think.
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There's plenty of folks that don't consider fusion to be prog. I don't really care to debate the issue, I've got you for that.Glad you picked up on that, Scott; I hate it when I make a little funny and it totally bombs.
Jade Warrior - Now
Broadcast - The Noise Made by People
Porcupine Tree - Fear of A Blank Planet
Stan Ridgway - Partyball
Jade Warrior - Breathing the Storm
Peter Hammill - All That You Hold
Secret Green - To Wake The King
Vangelis - 1492
Rush - Snake and Arrows
Yes - Union
... anyone who says that fusion isn't prog, tell that to Argent circa Circus and Counterponts and Moving Home
I'm not gonna try and figure out whether or not they have a limited viewpoint or not. I like both Symph Rock and Jazz Rock equally and they are equally part of the experience I lived through in the 70s and equally Prog to me and a bunch of other Prog fans. I see no need to try and figure out if the person asking about Prog expects everyone to think Symph when they say Prog. If they mean 'Symph only' they should say Symph.
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
How can fusion possibly not be prog? Never imagined anyone ever entertained such a foolish notion. Like saying the cardinal isn't Catholic just 'cause he's not the pope.
Anyway, I'll try this:
Brian Wilson - Smile
Steve Hackett - To Watch The Storms
Flower Kings - Flower Power (disc one)
Jade Warrior - Now
Cirrus Bay - The Search For Joy
Sanguine Hum - The Weight of the World
Knifeworld - The Unraveling
Glass Hammer - If
Camel - Nod & A Wink
Steve Howe - Turbulence
That's a nice list man
Your comment was funny, and it was funny that he did exactly that the very next post!Glad you picked up on that, Scott; I hate it when I make a little funny and it totally bombs.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Todd Rundgren - No World Order
Toy Matinee - S/T
Yes - Talk
Marillion - Brave
Kansas- Freaks of Nature
Jellyfish - Bellybutton
It Bites - Tall Ships
Spock's Beard - Snow
Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever
Winger - IV (what are you looking at?)
Someday he's going to be arrested for all that dead horse beating...
Cardiacs - Sing to God
the Sea Nymphs - st
Talk Talk - The Laughing stock
Radiohead - OK Computer
Sigur Ros - Takk
Änglagård - Hybris
Thinking PLague - In Extremis
Ske - 1000 Autunni
Rational Diet - At work
Aranis - Songs from Mirage
And I'm sure i forgot a few
That's maybe because you don't know half of the albums named
if anyone cares to reduce my list to 10, just take my Gnosis13 and add your fave Gnosis 12
Wow, my last Gnosis 13 dates from.... 2008...
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
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