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Is Roger on the new Genesis boxed set? Is he still in Deep Purple? Will he ever reunite with Paul & Ringo? I think it's horrid that Steve, Chris & Alan don't let him sing with them anymore! Has he finished up the Queen tour yet? I can't believe he's doing The Letters on this tour!
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Agreed completely. I have no idea how any of Roger's comments could be considered egocentric or pompous. People associate him with the band. I mean, he *could* have added something to the effect of "and why would anybody want to be associated with the Momentary Lapse/Division Bell era of the band anyway," but he showed some tact in not doing so. Those two albums are pretty easy targets.
There was much speculation on the other thread about his involvement, uninvolvement, invited, uninvited etc. I don't think it was odd people were asking about his involvement or thought, "he" had an album coming out. I totally get the get a grip comment, seriously, it's been 30 years, just about long enough for people to know he was no longer in the band!
As far as milking it goes, it bugs me he uses the PF brand after so much turmoil and spite to get the name away front them, don't use my pig etc., but not for nothing, most of it IS his material! He wants to tour the shit out of DSOTM god speed, its the child of HIS genius! I only see him milking the wall. But what the hell, its pretty much all his, and the last tour wasn't the same ole same ole from what i saw. Its not become a novelty act like some out there.
don't forget Owner of a Lonely Heart and I Cant Dance too. The writer of the Pop hits is the ruler of the band
actually, ('who owns the right to be the whole band' aside) it *is* interesting that Waters says he voluntarily "left" the band in 1986. I followed that mid 80s tantrum stuff and it didn't seem that way to me back then... but it's probably a good thing that he is trying to spin it like he voluntarily "left the band".
to be sure, this quote is nowhere near as vitriolic as his previous, puerile garbage
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
I saw Waters' Radio KAOS tour and Pink Floyd's MLOR tour vaguely around the same time. Working the load-in for Waters' equipment and lighting: His show was just as good a show using three trucks worth of equip as Floyd's show which used twelve trucks. I quite enjoyed him and the Paul Carrack lead-in.
Didn't see the KAOS tour, but loved that album, and taped the concert off the radio and listened to it endlessly for years after. Cassette is probably still in a box somewhere. Was very excited to find that broadcast online and reacquaint myself with it a few years ago. Great arrangement of Have a Cigar, great vocal from Carrack.
Crap, just looked at the full setlist (I've only heard the trimmed down radio broadcast) on Wiki. If anyone can direct me to a good quality boot from this tour, please let me know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_K.A.O.S._(tour)
Wow. That is a tasty set. I'd be interested in that, too.
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Yeah, I thought the note from Roger was pretty civil and reasonable. As to them not being Pink Floyd without him, well, I think the other 2/3's of the band would disagree. Gilmour certainly had as much (if not more) influence on the sound of the band as Roger did. Lyrically and conceptually, Roger certainly dominated their most popular period. Personally, that period is my least favorite of the band. I will agree though, that none of them ever came close afterwards to what they achieved as a group.
Waters penned not only the biggest "hits", but the majority of the songs in Floyd. Yes they collaborated more early on, but the majority of post Syd music was taken up by Waters by %.
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
There are several things I don't like about Roger. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to make a good living off of his work with Pink Floyd. He wrote most of the lyrics, and a lot of the songs as well.
I wouldn't pay a cent to see one of his shows, but if other Pink Floyd fans want to do that, more power to them. Also, more power to Roger for making a good living off of capitalism, even while he considers it to be evil personified.
Wonder by chance folks were asking in regards to this new album, coming out the day after TER, that Rog is guesting on-
http://www.amazon.com/Give-My-Love-T...t_mus_dp_dpt_1 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...nbalanced.html
That would be embarrassing...I believe Eno is on a track too.
"Henry Cow always wanted to push itself, so sometimes we would write music that we couldn't actually play – I found that very encouraging." - Lindsay Cooper, 1998
"I have nothing to do with Endless River. Phew! This is not rocket science people, get a grip." - Roger Waters, 2014
"I'm a collector. And I've always just seemed to collect personalities." - David Bowie, 1973
Per Wikipedia, here's the songwriting credits for DSOTM, WYWH and Animals. Obviously, songwriting credits are tricky, I seriously doubt that Roger Waters wrote the long instrumental section in Pigs (3 Different Ones), for example.lyrics yes
music WRONG
DSOTM:
1. "Speak to Me" Mason
2. "Breathe" Gilmour, Wright
3. "On the Run" Gilmour, Waters
4. "Time" Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour
5. "The Great Gig in the Sky" Wright, Clare Torrey
6. "Money" Waters
7. "Us and Them" Wright
8. "Any Colour You Like" Gilmour, Mason, Wright
9. "Brain Damage" Waters
10. "Eclipse" Waters
WYWH:
1. "Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts 1-5)"
Wright, Waters, Gilmour (Part 1)
Gilmour, Waters, Wright (Part 2)
Waters, Gilmour, Wright (Part 3)
Gilmour, Wright, Waters (Part 4)
Waters, Gilmour, Wright (Part 5)
2. "Welcome to the Machine" Waters
3. "Have a Cigar" Waters
2. "Wish You Were Here" Waters, Gilmour
3. "Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts 6–9)"
Wright, Waters, Gilmour (Part 6)
Waters, Gilmour, Wright (Part 7)
Gilmour, Wright, Waters (Part 8)
Wright (Part 9)
Animals:
1. "Pigs on the Wing 1" Waters
2. "Dogs" Waters, Gilmour
3. "Pigs (Three Different Ones)" Waters
4. "Sheep" Waters
5. "Pigs on the Wing 2" Waters
this really should be painfully obvious when suffering through any Waters solo album
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there ya go then!
the best stuff was a collaborative effort, not just one lone fuhrer
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
OK smartass,
more like these small songs like: Mother, Another Brick In The Wall (Oh shit, actually almost all of The Wall which was one of their biggest selling albums), Wish You Were Here ect. ect.
And anyone who thinks all the music was all the other members, sorry. Read some books, interviews and credits to know you are wrong. Waters wrote quite a bit of the music.
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