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    I came to it much later-huge early Genesis fan-I...

    I came to it much later-huge early Genesis fan-I was pretty much chased away by And Then There Were Three and only bought Abacab after that. I find Duke very listenable -I like it. I'm partial to the...
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    Hah it's wild to hear that Over is the first big...

    Hah it's wild to hear that Over is the first big Hammill favorite of of Lydon's. I thought that album was great -I tried to play that for folks when I first got into it -no takers. Everyone looked at...
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    Benefit is still my go to Tull album. Inside...

    Benefit is still my go to Tull album. Inside might be be favorite Tull cut -for all the reasons stated above.

    TAAB has been in rotation lately. That's sounds as good as always to me. Really...
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    I don't think Walker's covers of the Brel...

    I don't think Walker's covers of the Brel material are meant to be camp at all, despite what Marc Almond would like. I think he's taking them at face value. From what I've read, he's the first person...
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    This stuff is all great!. Love hearing that...

    This stuff is all great!. Love hearing that people are so into Giant they want to make it their own. I need a hanky...
    Interesting to hear how often vocals are taken by women regardless if...
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    I came to PH much later than Bowie, but thought...

    I came to PH much later than Bowie, but thought of Hunky Dory immediately when I first heard Chameleon and Silent Corner and Empty Stage. Initially I thought maybe Bowie was influenced by those...
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    I've been on that site and hadn't even gotten to...

    I've been on that site and hadn't even gotten to hunting for prog, so, thanks for the heads up
  8. Thread: Stereolab

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    Love Stereolab. Actually, listening to the latest...

    Love Stereolab. Actually, listening to the latest Discipline disc, I thought Burn the Fire Upon the Rocks had a really Stereolab or High Llamas flavoring to it, which only added another reason to...
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    I like it. It's really grown on me while I've...

    I like it. It's really grown on me while I've been listening to the later Tull catalogue. Granted that's an ahistorical context so 2 caveats: still not sold on "She Said She Was a Dancer" by Jethro...
  10. Cool hearing this after all this time -thanks!

    Cool hearing this after all this time -thanks!
  11. Love the accurate Pawnhearts/Lemmings flavor of...

    Love the accurate Pawnhearts/Lemmings flavor of that tune much, but it's the big cut -Burn the Fire Upon the Rocks that feels like a new epic ear business, and gets my big love right now. In...
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    Yep. I read the "don't got no tone" stuff online...

    Yep. I read the "don't got no tone" stuff online all the time. McLaughlin ala Emergency! and Inner Mounting Flame "don't got no tone" neither. Don't care.



    Thanks for this! Didn't know this...
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    Listening to records from several decades ago,...

    Listening to records from several decades ago, and going "He don't got no tone" is the reason I stay away from guitar forums as a rule of thumb. If Zappa doesn't sound good as a guitarist, then I'm...
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    As Frank at his best would say:

    As Frank at his best would say:
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    :up Weasels is an awesome thing. I love that...

    :up
    Weasels is an awesome thing. I love that album a lot. More so than any piece of music I ever heard then or since, the title track changed my perception of the relationship of music to noise.
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    Off the top of my head in no qualitative order: ...

    Off the top of my head in no qualitative order:

    Hot Rats
    Grand Wazoo
    Jean Luc Ponty Plays the Music of Frank Zappa (has this album been mentioned yet?)
    Sleep Dirt
    Orchestral Favorites
    Waka...
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    My bad. I thought you were talking about the band...

    My bad. I thought you were talking about the band on the cover. Over the years I had just assumed that album was made with whoever was avail -not an actual band. I've never heard that band you refer...
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    I'm not sure you're right. Frank liked to eff...

    I'm not sure you're right. Frank liked to eff with people. More than one person makes that observation in his bios.
    On another note -one key FZ quote I remember -I'll paraphrase : " I have no...
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    That stuff is more interesting to listen to than...

    That stuff is more interesting to listen to than the 80's comedy records and I have almost all of it. But I don't have to like the 80's comedy records and I don't. MMV
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    It's about groupies dressed up as goblins sucking...

    It's about groupies dressed up as goblins sucking cock at his Halloween Concerts. "When they're a goblin
    I start a-wobblin'" -boy, sure can't get cleverer than that. Funeeeeee

    But you're right we...
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    Sorry, Crew Slut is really not mocking youth...

    Sorry, Crew Slut is really not mocking youth culture. Nor is Wet T-Shirt Nite. Nor is Goblin Girl. They are pandering to an audience of leering teenage boys. They are Jackass humor songs. I mean the...
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    I'd say this is inaccurate. You're right, part...

    I'd say this is inaccurate.

    You're right, part of the problem is that he didn't change, so being a disciple of Lenny Bruce made sense as a response to repressive social and political conventions...
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    Watermelon in Easter Hay is a great thing, but...

    Watermelon in Easter Hay is a great thing, but Joe's Garage is a perfect example of an unpleasant record. He kind of honed in on a kind of sleazy bitter satire, that wasn't really funny, and wasn't...
  24. "I Am a Camera" is most famous as a play...

    "I Am a Camera" is most famous as a play adaptation of Christopher Isherwood's Berlin Stories -which was ultimately also adapted into the musical/film Cabaret. Why anyone would want to use a famous...
  25. I have to confess, even though I gave this album...

    I have to confess, even though I gave this album no chance when it first came out, because of the Tull album reassessment post here on this site, I finally gave Under Wraps a spin. I'm glad it's...
  26. "I Am a Camera" doesn't sound like New Wave? It's...

    "I Am a Camera" doesn't sound like New Wave? It's supposed to be a New Wave record.

    It took 3 albums to get to the sound of Civilian, and they still didn't have it quite right. They put all their...
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    Mega Zappa fan growing up- I liked everything up...

    Mega Zappa fan growing up- I liked everything up through Zoot Allures, and then it gets spotty for me. He became a very bitter guy, and a lot of his records after that are unpleasant. I own just...
  28. So I downloaded this disc.The way some folks...

    So I downloaded this disc.The way some folks were carrrying on here, I expected the Captain and Tennille.
    This is an excellent neo-prog disc. I like it a lot!!! Best buy this year! I like these...
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    Just to follow up on the Bonham thing -that...

    Just to follow up on the Bonham thing -that thunderous late slap/pound is always something I felt he/they got from Howlin' Wolf, who creates the most confoundingly heavy recordings. It's a can't fail...
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    Ha, I like drum solos. Probably a taste shaped by...

    Ha, I like drum solos. Probably a taste shaped by listening to "Tank" at an impressionable age. But I liked the Clive Bunker solo (not live, I know) on "Dharma for One" when I was growing up as well....
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    Both of them showcased the unique talents and...

    Both of them showcased the unique talents and personalities of the drummers they brought in, and that's probably the key to how to change the sound in an acceptable way. If someone just has to do an...
  32. Yes, Lester Bangs seems less offensive now,...

    Yes, Lester Bangs seems less offensive now, because he was an eccentric on that level. Having gone through Christgau's online review archives since reading them years ago, I've come to realize that...
  33. Once those 8 groups are excluded, at least when I...

    Once those 8 groups are excluded, at least when I was growing up, it was all about the entire Gentle Giant and Zappa catalogue for me as one giant audio slab played continuously. Now- less so, but...
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    Actually the last Arena Eno documentary had him...

    Actually the last Arena Eno documentary had him talking about Pro Tool era musicians in general, being exactly on beat like a metronome. And being behind or in front of the beat is so key in giving...
  35. I like this analysis of rock related music - I...

    I like this analysis of rock related music - I think it covers the spectrum, and it's from an archivist perspective which I believe, is the most honest. What it leaves out, at least as far as the...
  36. Cool list -personal list. Tarkus, Quadrophenia,...

    Cool list -personal list. Tarkus, Quadrophenia, Over, Hejira.... I love it...
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    I have Hamburger Concerto US release on LP and it...

    I have Hamburger Concerto US release on LP and it is not a gatefold.
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    Dont know anything about that disc -my bad. Good...

    Dont know anything about that disc -my bad. Good playing though!
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    One of the great treats of getting the Exposure...

    One of the great treats of getting the Exposure with 3 editions, was the TL heavy sound on the third edition's take of Breathless. His playing on the bridge of that just made my hair stand on end....
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    I finally heard that PJ Proby disc the other day....

    I finally heard that PJ Proby disc the other day. There some choice
    Jan Akkerman good moments for me to want that now...
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    As you say MMV. I can't figure out why this one...

    As you say MMV. I can't figure out why this one leaves me so cold. It doesn't stink, that's my whole above point, none of them stink- the catalogue is ultimately very consistent. Maybe more repeated...
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    By way of coincidence, Tony Williams STILL my...

    By way of coincidence, Tony Williams STILL my favorite drummer! :D
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    Usually drummer discussions are a third rail, but...

    Usually drummer discussions are a third rail, but I will say this: Keith Moon was a signature presence as a drummer. He came tumbling off the radio and out of your stereo speakers. He was the little...
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    Never put this up-been too busy -thanks for...

    Never put this up-been too busy -thanks for thread/topic -got me to revisit these later Tull discs and review/listen intently. Glad I did!

    The overview: Tull were a successful rock band with an...
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    This may be a non answer, since it's a VDGG cut, but Smoke off of Grounding in Numbers is deliberately funky...
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    Never heard before. Based on the title and the...

    Never heard before. Based on the title and the above sound file, it sounds like a vamp for George Duke to stretch out on . Maybe it's something Zappa wrote for George to get comfortable with the...
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    Yeah Goblin. I like the Italian prog/Italian...

    Yeah Goblin. I like the Italian prog/Italian Horror movie soundtrack tie -in. Get a kick out of that!

    Another directly related band that does that is I Libra. The soundtrack for Mario Bava's film...
  48. I go by the old adage: "Don't meet your heroes"....

    I go by the old adage: "Don't meet your heroes". I really don't want to find out they're assholes, or get insulted because they're having a bad day, or whatever. If I like what they do, I don't want...
  49. No toxic resentment there. I always hated his...

    No toxic resentment there. I always hated his singing on the Crimson records. I thought he was terrible- about as bad as you could possibly get.
    I just saw some of his Harry's bar stuff. He's a...
  50. Was listening to a lot of their stuff online...

    Was listening to a lot of their stuff online today. Unfolded Like Staircase is pretty impressive. The combine of VDGG, Genesis and Crimson as considered influences is almost too good to be true....
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    That's going to be a very different presentation...

    That's going to be a very different presentation with no Ethan Iverson, but Dave King always makes interesting stuff, so, whatever this band will be, I'd be surprised if it wasn't a cool thing. I've...
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    What will be interesting is if the keyboard...

    What will be interesting is if the keyboard behind the Akkerman solo is put back into Harem Scarem on Hamburger Concerto. I have to pull out the LP to hear that these days. I miss it. It had a nice...
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    Came to the party late with regard to PFM so the...

    Came to the party late with regard to PFM so the first 4 albums I bought within a few months of each other. Love the first 2 records -like this album a lot.
    Like PFM better than Le Orme or Banco,...
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    This is actually the first time I ever saw Dave...

    This is actually the first time I ever saw Dave Gibbons -not Watchmen, not 2000 AD...
    http://ellectorimpaciente.blogspot.com/2011/10/david-gibbons-y-jethro-tull-demasiados.html
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    Love his playing and have a number of his solo...

    Love his playing and have a number of his solo discs as well. As to not getting along with other band members -it seems like a kind of job where you can see too much of another person. One day, it's...
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    I like all their records, and really like Jan...

    I like all their records, and really like Jan Akkerman as a guitarist, but Live at the Rainbow and Hamburger Concerto are probably best representative discs...
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    The only time he showed up on my radar growing up...

    The only time he showed up on my radar growing up was his vocals on Fripp's Exposure, and the half beard ads in Trouser Press for The Future Now. I didn't plug into PH or VDGG then, but I have almost...
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    :up Like these guys -get a real kick out of that...

    :up Like these guys -get a real kick out of that game music ingredient. A real salad of well selected sounds
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    Yes, The Lie and Red Shift are big favorites of...

    Yes, The Lie and Red Shift are big favorites of mine from that album. I'd play Red Shift for people that had never heard progressive or VDGG before...
    And with Modern, he has the audacity to take...
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