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    It never really did deal with sex, but it sure as...

    It never really did deal with sex, but it sure as hell did deal with rape.
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    I absolutely loathed Dollhouse. It was ostensibly...

    I absolutely loathed Dollhouse. It was ostensibly about how you could wipe the minds of people and put new minds in them and have them do what you needed them to do- like, give Eliza Dushku the...
  3. I am so sorry to hear this. I know the last two...

    I am so sorry to hear this. I know the last two weeks have been hard, but I hope you and yours were buoyed by the love from so many here at PE. Geezer is now playing that great gig in the sky.
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    Very nice analysis.
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    Saw this.

    Saw this.
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    Iluvatar, play this one by Kamasi instead. This...

    Iluvatar, play this one by Kamasi instead. This is an astonishing set of interconnected compositions. It will lift you up toward Heaven.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YbPSIXQ4q4
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    I will just say I saw Annie Haslam with...

    I will just say I saw Annie Haslam with Renaissance do "Ashes are Burning" in Chicago and she held that note at the end for what seemed eternity and it brought the entire crowd to its feet in...
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    Odyssey, for sure. it has the absolutely crushing...

    Odyssey, for sure. it has the absolutely crushing "Over Birkerot" on it.
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    New (Old) Terje Rypdal

    Someone just posted this 3 hours ago, and I have never seen it before.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4pSARdvh4
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    Claudia Black as an informed take on things from...

    Claudia Black as an informed take on things from her time on The Nevers. https://collider.com/claudia-black-interview-the-nevers-stripe-joss-whedon/
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    Wow- Magma with Kamasi Washington (his The Epic...

    Wow- Magma with Kamasi Washington (his The Epic is by far the greatest jazz suite of the past 20 years- amazing music!) and Annette Peacock and Faust and Sunn O))) and Arthur Brown? Wow!
  12. Thread: Magma news

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    Zess, live 1980! ...

    Zess, live 1980!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujrOva2uXI0
  13. Thread: Black Midi

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    Okay, that is interesting. Sort of got a...

    Okay, that is interesting. Sort of got a Devo/Talking Heads crossed with Bad Brains and Meshuggah kind of vibes, but I dug it. :-)
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    Larry Coryell's 11th House live

    I've never seen this clip before but it really burns!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYXo1SduW1U
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    That is indeed interesting. There has been no...

    That is indeed interesting. There has been no comment at all. No crisis management team, no public apologies, no anything. He is remarried now, and has tons of money, so perhaps it no longer matters...
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    There is now this:...

    There is now this: https://www.salon.com/2021/05/16/the-nevers-cancel-culture-joss-whedon-donald-glover/
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    This is all bullshit. Both he and Marti Noxon had...

    This is all bullshit. Both he and Marti Noxon had long discussions about whether or not to keep Willow gay- they really did discuss this for S7- and they decided the outcry would be too large if they...
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    Alecto took a lot of heat when that came out. In...

    Alecto took a lot of heat when that came out. In retrospect, there is a lot of rather perceptive commentary in that diatribe. She was right more often than wrong and nailed some of the issues that...
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    Of course. But let me link you to the most...

    Of course. But let me link you to the most scathing review of a Whedon project in history, the infamous Alecto take on Firefly- and it is not for the faint-hearted:...
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    There is also the problematic presentation of...

    There is also the problematic presentation of Inara, who is actually, well, a whore. Which is presented as an honorable profession, but in reality is never an honorable profession.

    And also, now,...
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    Much as I hate to say it, the 5th episode of The...

    Much as I hate to say it, the 5th episode of The Nevers was pretty strong, and no matter what else, the acting is excellent. But the story of the split between the women is basically the story of...
  22. I Am Sitting in a Room- ALvin Lucier 90th birthday celebration

    Nice article in the NYT today: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/arts/music/alvin-lucier-sitting-in-a-room.html?action=click&module=Features&pgtype=Homepage
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    Iluvatar: you can get all Magma right from...

    Iluvatar: you can get all Magma right from Wayside. Steve does a great job of carrying tons of excellent music.

    Kohntarkosz s the greatest piece of music ever. Every version. Here is another:

    ...
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    The point of the morgue scene was nothing more...

    The point of the morgue scene was nothing more than to say that despite the loss, life still goes on and one still has to live in it. Willow and Tara's scene was important for a lot of reasons, but...
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    Whedon was there for the first 6 eps before...

    Whedon was there for the first 6 eps before getting tossed (or stepping down...). And of course it has all his hallmarks, good and bad- for example, he just killed a character who just went public...
  26. Holy cow, dude-this is an amazing find! Really...

    Holy cow, dude-this is an amazing find! Really good!
  27. The Quarantine concerts are amazing and he tries...

    The Quarantine concerts are amazing and he tries not to repeat too many songs. And they are all out on youtube, and often involve Jack Casady or others.

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    Nope, don't see it, iluvatar. Magma is unique...

    Nope, don't see it, iluvatar. Magma is unique unto itself and was operational long before either of these guys were, though Doldinger was a jazzer before he was a fusion guy.

    Here, lemme give a...
  29. Quite a good read and an obvious labor of love.

    Quite a good read and an obvious labor of love.
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    Maybe we are missing the forest for the trees....

    Maybe we are missing the forest for the trees. Arthur Brown was doing prog in 1968 with Fire, right? Heavy organ, pyrotechnics, and flamboyant stage act? Prog!

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    Iluvatar, here is my Pat Metheny story, which I...

    Iluvatar, here is my Pat Metheny story, which I may have told before. Back in the mid-70s I was a student at Mich State U and I worked with a group called Showcase Jazz- we put on jazz concerts and I...
  32. I found this reaction clip as well: ...

    I found this reaction clip as well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnmPUqBeWdM

    And this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7DGLk-h5_4&t=980s
  33. Composer/Musician Reacts to Magma: Ementeht Re II

    I enjoyed his thoughts on this, even when I did not agree with him, but this is very informative.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF3NcF6vTWE
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    Iluvatar- truth is, the Airplane were everything...

    Iluvatar- truth is, the Airplane were everything to me back in 1967-68, when I was but 14-15yo. Jack Casady was by far the coolest dude on the planet, and he is why I took up bass. I have a picture...
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    My bad, Iluvatar- I got Focus confused with...

    My bad, Iluvatar- I got Focus confused with Golden Earring. I mean, anyone could right? :D GE was a psych band long before Radar Love came out.

    Now, where do we put United States of America?

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    Iluvatar, this argument has been made many times....

    Iluvatar, this argument has been made many times. And using that same logic. But if we limit ourselves to the modern era, coming up with a discrete example of "prog" remains hard to do as a genre....
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    I would consider them all psychedelic at that...

    I would consider them all psychedelic at that point in time, not prog. I just listened to Odyssey and Oracle yesterday, oddly enough. Caravan as a more prog band was 1970- Wild Flowers were psych.
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    Iluvatar, from my perspective, just keep asking....

    Iluvatar, from my perspective, just keep asking. The truth is, we've been grappling with these same questions for as long as I have been posting here. And every thread that tries to define prog bogs...
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    Glad you enjoyed Touch- a great band, well ahead...

    Glad you enjoyed Touch- a great band, well ahead of their time.

    The posting is easy, Iluvatar, just use the film-looking link (Insert Video Link) above, which opens a box into which you can copy...
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    Break through is different from progenitor. For...

    Break through is different from progenitor. For early music that led to prog, I consider Touch a classic.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcBB3IMSFtg

    After that, Yes and King Crimson, with...
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    Is the product held on a single server? I...

    Is the product held on a single server? I honestly do not know. Or is it accessible from any place since it is held in the cloud?
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    Hhai. Yes. :-)

    Hhai. Yes. :-)
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    Magma- Live (shock!)

    Magma- Live
    (shock!)
  44. Also played on the legendary psychedelic album...

    Also played on the legendary psychedelic album Clear Light.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4hpd4lcwpo
  45. Thread: Harvey Mandel

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    I love the man and his music and need that boxed...

    I love the man and his music and need that boxed set.
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    Constance Demby RIP

    Another great gone: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/arts/music/constance-demby-dead.html?action=click&module=Features&pgtype=Homepage
  47. Boy, I sure wish I had all 8 of those records...

    Boy, I sure wish I had all 8 of those records Magma recorded between 1970-73!

    Man, if he was 39 in 1978, he's 82 now!
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    This is an important step toward the holy...

    This is an important step toward the holy fungible grail of PFTs - partially fungible tokens.

    "The PFT will allow mutex-able token sharing in a way that finally realizes the vision of the now...
  49. Today I saw a list of the 10 greatest bassists in...

    Today I saw a list of the 10 greatest bassists in the history of rock and at #8 they had Nikki Sixx... McCartney at #1.
  50. Not including Christian Vander and Morgen Agren...

    Not including Christian Vander and Morgen Agren is criminally idiotic, and I would add Kerman as well. Pretty stupid list as lists go.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phyWJ_x2Eac ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phyWJ_x2Eac

    Then, there is this piece of utter idiocy, which shows the wrong damned Magma!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1we804e6Tc

    James on bass:
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    Well, for sure I gotta go with Kohntarkosz by...

    Well, for sure I gotta go with Kohntarkosz by Magma, which is not one but 2 full sides on the live disc.
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    This article seems harsh, but I think it sums up...

    This article seems harsh, but I think it sums up my thinking to date:...
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    King Crimson v. Yes in Round 2? Sigh. ;) And...

    King Crimson v. Yes in Round 2? Sigh. ;)

    And no Magma.
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    Keep it going, but thanks for all the very good...

    Keep it going, but thanks for all the very good information so far!
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    But essentially, this is true solely for a...

    But essentially, this is true solely for a digital object, right? And even then, I could own it and make a copy of it and put it out on the net where others could use it? How does this take energy,...
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    The Guardian article has an interesting...

    The Guardian article has an interesting conclusion: "That is not a given, though: blockchain is notoriously energy intensive, and so, at the moment, NFT risks being an environmentally damaging way to...
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    Mods can move this if they want, but I am...

    Mods can move this if they want, but I am flummoxed by how this works, and I have tried reading up on it. The more I read the more confused I got. And when I got to bitcoin and block chain, utterly...
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    Timmy- how would Kings of Leon then sell, say...

    Timmy- how would Kings of Leon then sell, say thousands of copies of their music?
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    NFTs and Music

    I profess I completely do not understand how NFTs work, nor why some musician named 3lau has made 11 million dollars in one month selling them. I do not understand bitcoin mining, nor why anyone...
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