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    Beginning with the Just Another Band From L.A....

    Beginning with the Just Another Band From L.A. concert in August 1971, FZ used a 4-track Scully machine for "road tapes" up through 1979.
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    There were a lot of radio broadcasts from that...

    There were a lot of radio broadcasts from that tour. Setlist and playing style was similar to the Cellar Door Sessions and Ndugu does sound lost at times trying to fill Jack DeJohnette's shoes.
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    Keith Tippett RIP

    Reading on Facebook (from Leonardo Pavkovic and Sid Smith among others) that pianist Keith Tippett has passed away. RIP.
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    Dennis was on Gilbert Gottfried's podcast last...

    Dennis was on Gilbert Gottfried's podcast last week, fun interview.
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    Correct, he built UMRK in 1980 and You Are What...

    Correct, he built UMRK in 1980 and You Are What You Is was the first album he recorded there.
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    At the end of this article it states Kasim Sulton...

    At the end of this article it states Kasim Sulton plans to play a socially distanced solo concert in New Hampshire on May 23.
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    It sounds like a radio broadcast. 1984 was the...

    It sounds like a radio broadcast. 1984 was the only tour where they played "Corner Pocket" so that likely is the correct date. I think the "unknown" song is "Blue Sound - Note 3" from Domino Theory.
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    An audience tape surfaced of the show (I don't...

    An audience tape surfaced of the show (I don't think it's on YouTube). It ends before the "Venusian.." solo but you can hear the rest of the show with a more balanced mix.
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    It's the entire solo (an unusually short solo for...

    It's the entire solo (an unusually short solo for FZ). The show tape circulates, October 1 1974 (early) Basel Switzerland. FZ added the guitar effects later.
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    In case anyone hasn't seen it, here is a pandemic...

    In case anyone hasn't seen it, here is a pandemic era interview with him, where he mentions his concerns due to his (not specified in the interview) respiratory condition:
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    Pretty nice list. "Sweet Dream" is the one I'll...

    Pretty nice list. "Sweet Dream" is the one I'll mention as not being "unknown," if only because it was one of the first Tull songs I heard (MTV played a video of it excerpted from Slipstream in the...
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    Incidentally, I took drum lessons with Paul...

    Incidentally, I took drum lessons with Paul Wertico once and he mentioned that the live Gary Burton record with Larry Coryell was Pat's favorite album.
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    ECM released a promo-only live album of the Pat...

    ECM released a promo-only live album of the Pat Metheny Group from 1977 that included "Wrong Is Right."

    https://www.discogs.com/Pat-Metheny-Group-Live-In-Concert/release/1776577
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    https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/sony-reissu...

    https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/sony-reissuing-the-miles-davis-complete-series.948854/page-14#post-23901157

    Now they are saying May 15.
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    On the Steve Hoffman forum I read someone saying...

    On the Steve Hoffman forum I read someone saying that a customer service rep (Music Today?) told him they would ship May 6.
  16. Thread: Weather Report

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    For an album you might not know that sounds like...

    For an album you might not know that sounds like early Weather Report, try this.

    https://www.discogs.com/OM-10-With-Dom-Um-Romao-OM-With-Dom-Um-Romao/release/870791
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    Yes, in the documentary from around '90 they used...

    Yes, in the documentary from around '90 they used that footage during the segment about Hackett deciding to leave the band, it was powerful.
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    I remember one interview where he talked about...

    I remember one interview where he talked about his early songwriting contributions to Genesis and mentioned "Ballad Of Big," but that he thought it was embarassing.
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    Phil has said he doesn't like ATTWT. Maybe that...

    Phil has said he doesn't like ATTWT. Maybe that was a factor.
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    I remember the Hedges book had a quote from Jon...

    I remember the Hedges book had a quote from Jon (or maybe Chris) saying he had hoped the orchestra would enjoy the music but that they approached it as a job.
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    One time I posted a YouTube link of Procol Harum...

    One time I posted a YouTube link of Procol Harum mid 70's on Facebook and a friend commented that some band members were also wearing hockey jerseys.
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    Sticky: I had Tuesday off from work (I realize not...

    I had Tuesday off from work (I realize not everyone can do this), so I went to a store right when it opened at 8 and they had everyone line up to walk to the paper products aisle. It was already thin...
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    The version of "Torture Never Stops" from Buffalo...

    The version of "Torture Never Stops" from Buffalo was five days before the "Beat It With Your Fist" version, and Barrow plays in a more busy way under Zappa's solo (probably before Zappa told him he...
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    Some other comments from Zappa in this late 80's...

    Some other comments from Zappa in this late 80's interview about playing with Vinnie, Chad, Chester Thompson and his other drummers:

    https://www.afka.net/Articles/1989-07_Rhythm.htm
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    The rhythm guitar plays the same motif all the...

    The rhythm guitar plays the same motif all the way through, while the bass part under it changes every few minutes to imply different modes (if I recall right, B Mixolydian, then A Lydian, then C#...
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    In this interview Zappa mentioned Vinnie, but...

    In this interview Zappa mentioned Vinnie, but also that he was very happy with Chad and Scott.

    https://www.afka.net/Articles/1983-02_Down_Beat.htm

    BM: You've made some comments recently about...
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    Sticky: A podcast I like has posted a recent (taped last...

    A podcast I like has posted a recent (taped last Friday I think) phone call from an American who moved last year to China. Although he needed to be cautious about what he said by phone on some...
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    Sorry to read it. His nephew was my high school...

    Sorry to read it. His nephew was my high school math teacher.
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    Yes, it's the Wild Love solo from the October 28...

    Yes, it's the Wild Love solo from the October 28 early show.
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    I like the title piece a lot. FZ included the...

    I like the title piece a lot. FZ included the Charen solo in a King Biscuit show from the Halloween 77 run where I think it works better than on T-F but either way it's a great solo.
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    Trance-Fusion is the only guitar release to have...

    Trance-Fusion is the only guitar release to have solos from the '88 tour, mixed with several '84 solos and a couple of 70's solos.

    FZ edited some of the solos to crossfade into each other, rather...
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    I think it was just a matter of finding good...

    I think it was just a matter of finding good players and rehearsing them so they would play the pieces at the same tempo each show.

    "Drowning Witch" was noticeably slower the first month or so of...
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    Fall 1978 version played by Vinnie, Arthur Barrow...

    Fall 1978 version played by Vinnie, Arthur Barrow (bass) and Ed Mann (percussion):


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4QqyuWQ7-s
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    The credit on the YouTube video says that has...

    The credit on the YouTube video says that has Chad Wackerman on drums, but listening to it I think it is more likely Vinnie Colaiuta.
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    Sticky: My wife and I also went to the grocery. Paper...

    My wife and I also went to the grocery. Paper products gone other than a few boxes of Kleenex, other stuff also limited, but we should be able to get by. I have Tuesday off from work for a...
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    In one past thread about this show, I mentioned...

    In one past thread about this show, I mentioned that it could be interesting to do "The Drummers of Frank Zappa Part Two" with Art Tripp, Aynsley Dunbar, Vinnie Colaiuta, David Logeman and Ed Mann.
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    Probably the volume with the most instrumental...

    Probably the volume with the most instrumental improv.
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    Also on Dangerous Kitchen (the MFU version).

    Also on Dangerous Kitchen (the MFU version).
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    I always liked that track. Sort of a combined...

    I always liked that track. Sort of a combined groupie story and vocal imitation of an Ornette Coleman solo.
  40. Incidentally, last week Chad played on Seth...

    Incidentally, last week Chad played on Seth Meyers's show backing James Taylor.
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    They haven't officially released these shows...

    They haven't officially released these shows before. There have been excellent unofficial copies though.
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    Incidentally, one of my grade school teachers in...

    Incidentally, one of my grade school teachers in the 80's was from the South and told me she dated David Hood once.
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    Looking at a bit of the Santa Monica video, I...

    Looking at a bit of the Santa Monica video, I don't think there was a second keyboardist there, although they set up the piano and organ at opposite ends of the stage.
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    YAWYI had a few overdubbed live tracks. He...

    YAWYI had a few overdubbed live tracks. He recorded many of his concerts and had the band play new material at the shows, and didn't like to play guitar solos in the studio, so he took a lot of...
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    There is a rehearsal tape from the Sheik Yerbouti...

    There is a rehearsal tape from the Sheik Yerbouti era where Zappa is angry at the band about various mistakes, then they practice "Dancin' Fool" and he screws up the words and says, "ok, everybody...
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    In fact all of side two of that album is live,...

    In fact all of side two of that album is live, with overdubs (like a lot of Zappa's 80's rock cuts).
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    They played "Critique Oblique" when I saw them...

    They played "Critique Oblique" when I saw them two years ago. Guess Ian decided to rest it this year, although it would fit the theme.
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    I have read that a duo album with Ron Carter was...

    I have read that a duo album with Ron Carter was one project Pat recorded but shelved in this period where he was reluctant to release music. If From This Place is a success for him, I hope he'll...
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    Levin came back when Trey Gunn left, so I guess...

    Levin came back when Trey Gunn left, so I guess Belew's best shot is Jakko leaving.
  50. Thread: RIP Lyle Mays

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    I saw The Way Up show and as I recall Pat's...

    I saw The Way Up show and as I recall Pat's guitar assistant Carolyn Chrzan (sp?) got a workout taking his guitars on and offstage. I also remember Antonio Sanchez tossing a percussion instrument...
  51. Thread: RIP Lyle Mays

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    The PMG did a run of shows as a quartet (Metheny,...

    The PMG did a run of shows as a quartet (Metheny, Mays, Rodby and Antonio Sanchez) in New Years week 2008/2009 in Japan, and a short tour of Europe in summer 2010, playing old PMG material. As far as...
  52. Thread: RIP Lyle Mays

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    Steve Rodby's FB post about Mays also called him...

    Steve Rodby's FB post about Mays also called him "an intensely private person." I think his friends just don't think he would have wanted the world to know about his health struggles.
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    "First Circle" switched to a simpler 12/8 meter...

    "First Circle" switched to a simpler 12/8 meter for the solo but I agree Mays played great solos on it.
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    I saw Ian and his current band in 2018. Setlist...

    I saw Ian and his current band in 2018. Setlist was heavy on early (first three albums) material which he could sing passably. Other band members and singers on video filled in vocals on some of the...
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    I saw Jimmy Herring's double bill with John...

    I saw Jimmy Herring's double bill with John McLaughlin a few years ago. Good guitar playing. Herring opened his set with a version of "John McLaughlin" (the track from Bitches Brew) which was a...
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    She sings two words, if I recall right. On Tropic...

    She sings two words, if I recall right. On Tropic Appetites she sings a few verses.
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    Haven't heard this album, but might check it out....

    Haven't heard this album, but might check it out. I've read him mentioning in interviews that John Bonham is one of his favorite drummers.
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    I've heard bits of both online. The debut would...

    I've heard bits of both online. The debut would be one of those collectible prog albums if they hadn't become famous later. What I heard of the second album is more generic rock but at times has the...
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    There was a strange video on YouTube of the...

    There was a strange video on YouTube of the pre-first album lineup (Palmer on guitar/vocals, Davies keyboards, Hodgson bass, Keith Baker later of Uriah Heep on drums) doing a cover of "All Along The...
  60. The "someone" was probably Steve Backer, who...

    The "someone" was probably Steve Backer, who wrote a liner note to the Szobel record and is credited as executive producer on the Braxton albums.
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