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    Bass guitarists with beards

    Which prog bass guitarists have/had beards?
  2. [Pinder's lawsuit] Post #24

    [Pinder's lawsuit]

    Post #24
  3. Nice!

    Nice!
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    Lost hippie idealism and prog appreciation

    Is a yearning for hippie idealism an aspect of your appreciation of progressive rock? If so, how?
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    Interesting replies by Dylan. He's got good...

    Interesting replies by Dylan. He's got good taste.

    Interesting comment about Lennon at the end. I don't share his antipathy to Ringo's vocals though. Beatles comment perhaps influenced by...
  6. Anyway, in the photo they look really naff - two...

    Anyway, in the photo they look really naff - two tired old buggers, one ageing pretty boy and a bloke who really shouldn't be wearing leather trousers, trying unconvincingly to look cool and 'moody'....
  7. Yeah, this is bad.

    Yeah, this is bad.
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    Radio show of Peter Blegvad's music

    http://thecrystalpalacemustbebuilt.com/2014/09/23/programme-6/

    I think this serves well as an intriguing introduction to my favourite songwriter.
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    The appeal of Rick Wakeman

    What is the appeal of Rick Wakeman's music?
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    Reminded me of Stackridge - from the same part of...

    Reminded me of Stackridge - from the same part of England.
  11. Saville in his lifetime was more of a household...

    Saville in his lifetime was more of a household name than Peel in Britain; quite possibly the best-known DJ amongst the general public, full of quirky idiosyncracies that made him a favourite of...
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    I feel a little sad that, while continuing as The...

    I feel a little sad that, while continuing as The Who after Keith's death was a major issue, after John's death they just carried on with scarcely a pause.

    R.I.P. The Ox.
  13. Thread: Prog shoes

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    I feel that musicians' shoes and boots tend to be...

    I feel that musicians' shoes and boots tend to be unfairly ignored, as they are often excluded from pictures and videos. For instance in this photo of King Crimson:

    ...
  14. Quite so.

    Quite so.
  15. Thread: Prog shoes

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    Prog shoes

    What have you noticed about the footwear of individual prog musicians?
  16. ^Yes!

    ^Yes!
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    I'm glad Third Ear Band are getting some...

    I'm glad Third Ear Band are getting some appreciation here. Eery, pagan, very atmospheric music. Very underrated.
  18. That is a problem with the concept of progress....

    That is a problem with the concept of progress. It posits a general, quasi-objective development upwards, that doesn't acknowledge the subjectivity of taste.
  19. ^^^ Unrelated as in 'no inherent connection',...

    ^^^

    Unrelated as in 'no inherent connection', rather than as in 'mutually exclusive'.
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    Yes, very well said.

    Yes, very well said.
  21. Generally the concept of progress conflates...

    Generally the concept of progress conflates 'development through time' with 'improvement'. This is a profoundly, and I think unfeasibly, optimistic assumption.

    I think we should think of...
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    Prog in the morning

    Do you like to listen to prog in the morning?

    If so, when do you start to listen to it?

    Are there any bands which you particularly appreciate early in the day?
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    For me it's precisely because Snow Goose is all...

    For me it's precisely because Snow Goose is all instrumental that it is their best album. Good instrumental band - songs were their weakness.

    Mirage is my second favourite of their albums. Like a...
  24. I recall from Bruford's book an anecdote where he...

    I recall from Bruford's book an anecdote where he is aghast at hearing Jobson ask Holdsworth to play his solos at live shows each night more like on the record. For Bruford this was contrary to the...
  25. ^ Thanks, Zeulmate. I quite like this. I agree...

    ^ Thanks, Zeulmate.

    I quite like this. I agree that Jobson is at his best here. As when I've listened to this album in the past, I enjoyed Bruford's contributions.

    But, as with every other time...
  26. I haven't yet been converted to UK. How about a...

    I haven't yet been converted to UK. How about a UK fan supplying a link to a fave track, maybe with commentary about what they particularly like about it?

    I do like the Crimson of that era.
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    Prog musicians who play tennis

    Which prog musicians play/played tennis?
  28. On reflection, what I suspect happened was that...

    On reflection, what I suspect happened was that someone Martin was chatting to in the bar mentioned that they liked The Beatles, whereupon Martin reinstated Eleanor Rigby into the set, rehearsing it...
  29. At Cambridge, he definitely implied that someone...

    At Cambridge, he definitely implied that someone in the bar before the gig had requested Beatles, so the band hastily rehearsed the song just before they came on - no mention of it being in the set...
  30. Was that Eleanor Rigby? Did Martin say it was a...

    Was that Eleanor Rigby? Did Martin say it was a response to a request to do a Beatles song from someone he'd met in the bar earlier in the evening?

    That is what he did and said at Cambridge.
    ...
  31. Martin Barre tour of Britan and Europe, autumn 2014

    Anyone seen Martin?

    http://www.martinbarre.com/index.cfm/events
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    Tall and small prog musicians

    Which prog musicians are/were particularly tall?

    Which prog musicians are/were particularly small?
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    I sympathise with Tim. This is not a...

    I sympathise with Tim.



    This is not a sensible suggestion, and the antagonism to a harmless, constructive thread isn't justified.
  34. Thanks, good answer.

    Thanks, good answer.
  35. Yes, well put. I wonder when, and how, anyone...

    Yes, well put.

    I wonder when, and how, anyone first started distinguishing the two? My impression is that in 1967-70 the distinction wasn't made.
  36. Where's that from?

    Where's that from?
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    Thanks. Robyn is always interesting in interviews.

    Thanks. Robyn is always interesting in interviews.
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    Because you might find compiling such a list...

    Because you might find compiling such a list enjoyable?
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    Nice one!

    Nice one!
  40. What is the relationship between prog and psychedelic music?

    Discuss
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    Yes, well put. I agree completely (not convinced...

    Yes, well put. I agree completely (not convinced TAAB is so different, though). Big themes (1972-5 in particular), but ultimately rather casually, albeit articulately, considered. For me the interest...
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    Yes, this is the kind of thing I think of when...

    Yes, this is the kind of thing I think of when people say that punk was a good thing. I often - not always - find critics who write complex appreciations of simple music conceited. The overt...
  43. Such Top 10s often conflate popularity, influence...

    Such Top 10s often conflate popularity, influence and personal taste.
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    Yes, I agree completely. I read an...

    Yes, I agree completely.

    I read an interesting quote from Brian Eno - the exact context wasn't supplied, but I inferred he was referring to something to do with prog and counter-culture. The...
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    I don't disagree with any of this; I don't think...

    I don't disagree with any of this; I don't think music has a responsibility to be political. I'm just interested in the extents to which prog can and cannot claim to be counter-cultural, about the...
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    The Conservative Party is the right-of-centre...

    The Conservative Party is the right-of-centre political party in Britain (i.e. like the Republican Party). More broadly I think the term means the same in both countries.
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    More great commentary - thanks Bill. You'd be a...

    More great commentary - thanks Bill. You'd be a good chap to have a beer with.

    The counter argument is that when artistic expression (as opposed to fuller commitment) moves in a more 'spiritual'...
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    Also Wakeman, Oldfield and others actually voted...

    Also Wakeman, Oldfield and others actually voted Conservative in the 70s. I don't hate them for this, or dismiss their music because of this, but it is a change to note. Imagine a member of Jefferson...
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    I don't think that's the case, and I certainly...

    I don't think that's the case, and I certainly have got nothing against 70s prog fans (I was one).

    What I meant is that if there is any radical cultural message in e.g. Topographic Oceans (but...
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    I meant that the artists, their publicists and...

    I meant that the artists, their publicists and maybe fans considered the works in themselves important, less 'rock as part of a cultural revolution', more 'rock for art's sake'. Personally I don't...
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    ^^ @JJ88 In the late 70s at least I knew lots...

    ^^ @JJ88

    In the late 70s at least I knew lots of young people who liked prog supergroups and were otherwise culturally and politically conservative, albeit relatively intellectual.
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    Excellent commentary. One element I would add...

    Excellent commentary.

    One element I would add is that the prog supergroups moved away from an anarchistic counter-culture with an overt 'change the world' agenda, to a more conventional and...
  53. ^More constructively, Mr Traveller, would you...

    ^More constructively, Mr Traveller, would you like to supply your own list of Top 10 prog bands, as a means of illustrating your own interpretation of 'progressive'?
  54. ^The off-topic forum here used to be like that.

    ^The off-topic forum here used to be like that.
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    Interesting!

    Interesting!
  56. Does anyone know the post-Enid band Come...

    Does anyone know the post-Enid band Come September? They were unlucky to have existed in 1991, in between the early 80s progressive rock revival (now known as neo-prog), and the more substantial...
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    Was 70s prog pretentious?

    Do you think that in general 70s proggers fancied themselves as more important philosophers/poets/musical experimenters than they actually were? If so, how much does this detract from their work?
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    Thanks, that explains it. Good to know that Ian...

    Thanks, that explains it. Good to know that Ian agrees with those of us who dislike the pun.

    Where is this quote taken from?
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    I also recommend Westbrook (especially...

    I also recommend Westbrook (especially Metropolis) and Gibbs.
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    Yes, the exchange was intended by both parties.

    Yes, the exchange was intended by both parties.
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