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  1. Ben Johnson- one of the hardest pieces to play,...

    Ben Johnson- one of the hardest pieces to play, ever.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp7VjBtOJ74
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    This is well said. But what is interesting here...

    This is well said. But what is interesting here is that this thread is about the future of progressive rock- and we are discussing someone who is at the forefront of what the future of jazz may...
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    I am also struggling with the comment. How is...

    I am also struggling with the comment. How is Kamasi polarizing? I've been following his career for some time. He makes superb music. It is something that combines elements of free jazz, bop, gospel,...
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    Magma sure as hell won fans at Hellfest, which is...

    Magma sure as hell won fans at Hellfest, which is mainly heavy metal.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOM-l1GBUSY
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    I also agree. I think The Epic is one of the best...

    I also agree. I think The Epic is one of the best release of the past decade. It excites me no end. I am with those who cannot stand Kanye because of his personality. That is a deal killer for me. I...
  6. Thread: Anna Meredith

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    Also had not heard of her, but also exploring....

    Also had not heard of her, but also exploring. Loving what I am hearing.

    ETA: I just listened to all of "Five Telegrams." Wow! Just wow!
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    I'm 66. I have rarely in the past 15 years found...

    I'm 66. I have rarely in the past 15 years found new music that absolutely excites me, not like when I was younger. This board becomes important for that reason: I had not heard of Anna Meredith, but...
  8. Thread: Magma Zess

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    Umm yes.... ETA: The entire live version from...

    Umm yes....

    ETA: The entire live version from last week is up, though I doubt it will be there long. And let me say- wow!!!! Just wow!!!
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    yodelgoat- where in Sedona? I have family in...

    yodelgoat- where in Sedona? I have family in Flagstaff and visit the area regularly so must visit any place willing to put on thatt music. I love Sedona. Sorry to go OT here.
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    Really, wrong question. Let me reframe it: Will...

    Really, wrong question. Let me reframe it: Will we ever see an epic return of Rock into popular culture as significant as the music was to it's former glory days?
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    Schplonk!

    Schplonk!
  12. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I'd love some new music. Really new. And a lot of...

    I'd love some new music. Really new. And a lot of the band are no longer spring chickens. Vander is 70, Stella is heading there, Zab is almost 56, Herve has a kid who is probably in college, Bubu has...
  13. Thread: Magma Zess

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    This was posted by somebody, but no one related...

    This was posted by somebody, but no one related to the band or its label. In other words, it's an unapproved upload.
  14. Thread: Magma Zess

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    Oh, for pete's sake, the entire record is posted...

    Oh, for pete's sake, the entire record is posted on YouTube. I am not sure how to report it, but perhaps Steve F can do so. It is only just out!
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    Damn. When I first saw Magma in 1999, I was in...

    Damn. When I first saw Magma in 1999, I was in awe of Kohntarkosz, but seeing MDK live was earth shattering. No one could sing that hard and that fast for that long. It was only Antoine, Zab and...
  16. Thread: Magma Zess

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    Slacker. :-) My older kids are 39 and they...

    Slacker. :-)

    My older kids are 39 and they have heard their entire life as well. I began listening to Magma in 1976...
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    Buy it. Worth having. Play it regularly.

    Buy it. Worth having. Play it regularly.
  18. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I took my son to one Magma show- he owed me,...

    I took my son to one Magma show- he owed me, since I took him to see Offspring and Living End. He was impressed, but had heard their music since he was born- and he is 34 now...
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    I also have this recording, also on cassette. |)...

    I also have this recording, also on cassette. |) And BTW, you can find the HOB show on youtube, easily enough. Some of it has disappeared over time, but still. ...
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    Sound quality ain't great. I am a completist, for...

    Sound quality ain't great. I am a completist, for sure. But I do not often play this one, as better versions exist. But KMX-B12, that is never bad.
  21. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I just received my copy and have played it 5 or 6...

    I just received my copy and have played it 5 or 6 times in the last 2 days. It is a very different working of the composition, far more liquid and flowing and resonant. It uses odd meters and seems...
  22. Thread: Magma Zess

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    And here is an excerpt from last night: ...

    And here is an excerpt from last night:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHlHWjcFP04
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    Ordered.

    Ordered.
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    I wrote to Kevin some years ago about that paper...

    I wrote to Kevin some years ago about that paper of his. I wish I could find the communication... (he cited me in his paper from the interview I did with CV for Option magazine way back in 1988). :-)
  25. Thread: Magma Zess

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    Doubtful. Magma has a full slate of concerts...

    Doubtful. Magma has a full slate of concerts planned into 2020.
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    Nope nope nope. Here is Space Jazz at its...

    Nope nope nope.

    Here is Space Jazz at its best:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtHmqbnuZQs
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    Ra never had any children. Fact: to the best of...

    Ra never had any children. Fact: to the best of anyone's knowledge he never had sex. John Szwed makes this point in his biography of Ra. Might have been due to an undescended testicle. The bio is...
  28. Thread: Magma Zess

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    To me, PB is the most amazing and exciting...

    To me, PB is the most amazing and exciting bassist alive. Some of the lines he has to play are so complicated it is mind boggling. Just think of the concentration needed just to play Maahnt!

    ...
  29. Thread: Magma Zess

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    it's really rhythm and repetition, rather than...

    it's really rhythm and repetition, rather than melody, that drives Magma. How Vander permutes each composition is fascinating, endlessly inventive and with drumming that is never actually on the...
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    How about Isabelle Feuillebois of Magma singling...

    How about Isabelle Feuillebois of Magma singling funk with former members of Magma, the Deats?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT8C5DRs3Ic
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    That was a really nice find- had not heard this...

    That was a really nice find- had not heard this before and greatly enjoyed it.
  32. Thread: Magma Zess

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    DarthVader- I think the new version will miss...

    DarthVader- I think the new version will miss some of the guitar soloing that extends the piece when one live. I am so in for this.
  33. Thread: Magma news

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=xC...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=xCF9-k_LnOg
  34. Thread: Magma Zess

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    They were singing that on the DVD, so it's not...

    They were singing that on the DVD, so it's not really new.

    But count me beyond excited by this as well. But... does anyone get the sense this is a farewell valedictory?
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    Oh, great reminder! This is one of the most...

    Oh, great reminder! This is one of the most gorgeous songs ever.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLJmwxJPkLs

    And then Jaco, with Joni:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLJCZ5L2sQ
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    Bernard Paganotti's mighty bass on Talk Back ...

    Bernard Paganotti's mighty bass on Talk Back
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7bPwGucvWk
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    That does happen. But here is one of my fave bass...

    That does happen. But here is one of my fave bass lines of all time, something I have posted in other threads. This is why I began playing bass back in the late 1960s.

    ...
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    Blue Cheer, MC5, Stooges 1969 Jimi Hendrix, with...

    Blue Cheer, MC5, Stooges 1969
    Jimi Hendrix, with Soft Machine and the MC5 1968
    Tony Williams Lifetime with Mecki Mark Men, 1970
    Emerson, Lake and Palmer 1970
    Mothers of Invention 1969
    Mahavishnu...
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    KMX B12- Magma Mann's Fate- Hot Tuna Talk Back-...

    KMX B12- Magma
    Mann's Fate- Hot Tuna
    Talk Back- Weidorje
  40. Blue Cheer- Vincebus Eruptum Jefferson Airplane-...

    Blue Cheer- Vincebus Eruptum
    Jefferson Airplane- Surrealistic Pillow
    Jimi Hendrix Experience- Are You Experienced
    John Coltrane- Selflessness
    MC5- Live
    Grateful Dead- First
    Pink Floyd- Piper at...
  41. Yes, I did mean the live releases, not just his...

    Yes, I did mean the live releases, not just his legal tender releases. :-)
  42. Yep, these are the same. His back catalogue has a...

    Yep, these are the same. His back catalogue has a lot of folks playing around with it and pumping tons of material out.
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    It is always different. Every time. ...

    It is always different. Every time.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPAXrb9n5Wo


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gKCduIfJVc


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT__b1_5Ml0
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    Kohntarkosz is incredibly complex but...

    Kohntarkosz is incredibly complex but misleadingly so. It sounds like a simple riff, really- those three chords drive the song, but underneath all sorts of crazy stuff is going on. Vander wrote this...
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    I love absolute over-the-top craziness. ...

    I love absolute over-the-top craziness.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eGgXa360-E
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    Timely article today in the...

    Timely article today in the NYT:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/opinion/grateful-dead-dark-star-anniversary.html
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    Been doing a huge Dead re-listen and enjoying it...

    Been doing a huge Dead re-listen and enjoying it immensely. Thanks for the clips!
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    And Nori still has- this is from a recent tribute...

    And Nori still has- this is from a recent tribute to Gamalon.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqQhBkPI6k
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    Yes, June manages A MightY Cause and has for...

    Yes, June manages A MightY Cause and has for years. She did work for years with Olivia Records as well, with many of their out artists. She has won awards for audio engineering. Brie Brandt married...
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    Both Millington's are active in the music...

    Both Millington's are active in the music industry today. The full history of hte band is interesting, and at one time Patti Quatro was a member. They did well and were cited by Bowie as a band that...
  51. No surprise here, Magma Kohntarkosz. Enorme!

    No surprise here, Magma Kohntarkosz. Enorme!
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    Long one of my idols- he has been one of the...

    Long one of my idols- he has been one of the hardest working musicians in history, literally on thousands of albums and CDs. This is a pretty informative interview.
  53. Thread: Nonesuch

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    When I was younger I bought every Nonesuch you...

    When I was younger I bought every Nonesuch you could- classical, avante-garde, computer, world music or other. They have expanded significantly today- Tigran Hamosyan is on the label, for example....
  54. Well, he clEarly never listened to Magma.

    Well, he clEarly never listened to Magma.
  55. I sold my records after my kids all told me they...

    I sold my records after my kids all told me they had no interest in them. That was 2000 LPs. And my kids are all in their 30s.
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    Legit point. I have about 10 SCI discs, and while...

    Legit point. I have about 10 SCI discs, and while many of the songs are the same, they are not played the same, there is a lot of improvisation and jamming. I only ever saw Rush once, but it was...
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    There are many good bands that have made their...

    There are many good bands that have made their career by releasing many live shows- String Cheese Incident, Phish, Moe, Pearl Jam, etc. They have audeinces that understand the nuances and differences...
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    Boy, skullhead, you sure have given a lot of time...

    Boy, skullhead, you sure have given a lot of time and thought and energy in taking Tal Wilkenfeld to task for not making the music you want her to or in the way you want it made. Reminds me when back...
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    That was a memorable concert! I had never seen...

    That was a memorable concert! I had never seen the Psychedelic Stooges (as they were known then), so Iggy was a bit of crazed person, shoving the mike stand down his pants and all. And the MC5...
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    I saw Blue Cheer live in what was absolutely the...

    I saw Blue Cheer live in what was absolutely the loudest concert I have ever been to, Grande Ballroom in Detroit, with the Stooges and the MC5 opening. Whaley was a monster and we had not often seen...
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