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    And here is from Wayne Kramer of the MC5:

    And here is from Wayne Kramer of the MC5:
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    Motorhead were highly influenced by the MC5....

    Motorhead were highly influenced by the MC5. Shame if they got in before the 5 did.

    Turn this up to 11.And watch with 1970 eyes.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74jS3dW0DtE
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    SteveSly: Also a Detroiter here and having seen...

    SteveSly: Also a Detroiter here and having seen the MC5 a bunch of times in their heyday at the Grande and Easttown, the answer is absolutely they belong. And they absolutely do not belong, simply...
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    And David Rose ...

    And David Rose


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbWELLtkCVQ
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    Didier Lockwood with Magma from the mid-70s:...

    Didier Lockwood with Magma from the mid-70s: (sorry for the interview stuff):


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc6Nxy8nfu8

    And from 2017, not long before he died,

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    Fragile- Japanese Fusion

    I have to say, I was not familiar with them, but they play some truly fiery fusion music. Great stuff!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OikLEt4o-y8
  7. Thread: Chick Corea

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    I always thought Magma's Lihns was a gorgeous...

    I always thought Magma's Lihns was a gorgeous song.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJf3UBqck_g
  9. Thread: Chick Corea

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    Udi, he was not an atonal player at the...

    Udi, he was not an atonal player at the beginning. Circle and ARC came some time after his initial forays into post-bop. Tones for Joan's Bones and Now He Sings were not in any way atonal records....
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    There is also a 3-disc set of the highlights of...

    There is also a 3-disc set of the highlights of those 10 shows. I've been listening to him since the days of Now He Sings, Now He Sobs. What is that, 50+ years now. And he is still making vital...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3dxUNH6JEM&featur...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3dxUNH6JEM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0oe4755xDQF8cQnL7alwAbbyenllLjJQJbbeIIN 5zhi7-mhVdMviRpFqQ


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF1NmeX1IvY
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    Kavus- somewhere in the last few days I read an...

    Kavus- somewhere in the last few days I read an article about this project with Steve and Mike, though I cannot recall where, sorry! But for sure the article made the work sound amazing, and sure...
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    His record Pepper's Pow Wow contains one of the...

    His record Pepper's Pow Wow contains one of the great songs of that era (1971), his Wichi-Tai-To, which Jan Garbarek and Oregon recorded, among others. A great, great song:

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    I actually liked Beneath the Underdog, so I have...

    I actually liked Beneath the Underdog, so I have to respectfully disagree with others. The only complaint I have is that Mingus spells the word "schitt," which just reads odd to me. Met him, was...
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    If this is anything like his jazz documentary, it...

    If this is anything like his jazz documentary, it will go off the rails at some points and completely forget to cover the most important movements in the genre.
  16. Thanks! Brought me back to mid-70s prog,...

    Thanks! Brought me back to mid-70s prog, organ/synth based- good listen!
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    I cannot find anything. But I did find out that...

    I cannot find anything. But I did find out that Glenn Branca is from Harrisburg...

    https://www.allmusic.com/birthplace/harrisburg-pa-mz0000032428
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    This is as challenging as it gets and is...

    This is as challenging as it gets and is certainly music to listen to when no one else is around who has no conception music like this exists:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lttF6tPZs
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    baribrotzer- that i a really good record! This...

    baribrotzer- that i a really good record!

    This one is not American, but boy is it good:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3CnhblOA3Y&t=2094s
  20. He is no fan of modern jazz post mid-60s, fusion,...

    He is no fan of modern jazz post mid-60s, fusion, and he hates rap and hip hop (http://myspiltmilk.com/wynton-marsalis-responds-hip-hop-controversy) with a passion.

    From a reddit:
  21. I've never heard the roiginal, but listening to...

    I've never heard the roiginal, but listening to her play electro-pop is pretty cool. There is a lot going underneath the vocals. Quite nice.
  22. I have always found Marsalis to be technically...

    I have always found Marsalis to be technically gifted but generally soulless in his music. He is essentially a reactionary, IMO.
  23. The issue with Tara still seriously pisses me off...

    The issue with Tara still seriously pisses me off today, 17 years after it happened on TV. What a total screw up by Whedon, who is nowhere near the feminist he is proclaimed to be- just ask his...
  24. I have it. Worth having.

    I have it. Worth having.
  25. The Body is the single greatest hour of TV ever...

    The Body is the single greatest hour of TV ever broadcast. It is a devastating episode.
  26. But wait! David Fury got the mustard out! ...

    But wait! David Fury got the mustard out!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCO0J1N661U

    And Marti Noxon is not wearing underwear (listen carefully to the end)...

    ...
  27. One of the great episodes of television, bar...

    One of the great episodes of television, bar none, of all time. In Buffy, only The Body is better. But for prog fans, Anya singing Bunnies is much funnier and more prog than Tara's beautiful song-...
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    The comic is a hell of a lot more viscious....

    The comic is a hell of a lot more viscious....
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    Speaking about the change in radio over the...

    Speaking about the change in radio over the years, I just found out that the most legendary Chicago DJ has stepped down, of her own accord. When I moved to Chicago in 1976, Terri Hemmert was already...
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    Plus, Eider Stelleaire-one of the great all-time...

    Plus, Eider Stelleaire-one of the great all-time Zuehl groups:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_EotJ9p3kk

    The hard-to-find fusion master Darryl Dobson:

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    Mohini Dey does some superb fusion work-...

    Mohini Dey does some superb fusion work- combining Indian music with modern fusion.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCIpqwJe-6o


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcTzaczHZ8

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    Loved Stranger Things, but not to hijack this, is...

    Loved Stranger Things, but not to hijack this, is anyone also watching Dark? Very similar in tone, but far more tense.
  33. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I also agree with unclemeat's comment. Of course,...

    I also agree with unclemeat's comment. Of course, I went into the new studio version with expectations that were built upon my hearing of past versions, notably the live Epok version with its immense...
  34. Yes, '88 is the year I saw them.

    Yes, '88 is the year I saw them.
  35. I saw the Dead only once, at Alpine Valley, WI. I...

    I saw the Dead only once, at Alpine Valley, WI. I enjoyed the set, but was not completely bowled over. I managed to see most SF psych bands over time, but the Dead I had to wait and then all I...
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    Try as I might, this is not a band I really get...

    Try as I might, this is not a band I really get in to. However, I have a fond spot for Maynard James Kennan, since he makes some really fine wine under the Cadeucus label- no joke, it is very good,...
  37. Oh, jeez, no. I only learned about him maybe 2...

    Oh, jeez, no. I only learned about him maybe 2 months ago, but went out and bought much of his work- it is amazing material, notably the impossible string quartets played by Kepler. The Seventh is...
  38. I'm a bit lost. I turned in to see the comments...

    I'm a bit lost. I turned in to see the comments people made to the question (Hey, Santana was pretty progressive), but this devolved into a commentary on youtube clips. I do post them when they seem...
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    FWIW, Christian Vander does not see Magma as...

    FWIW, Christian Vander does not see Magma as prog. But the question: what is the future of prog, is of interest if only one could attempt to answer what is we are asking the future of. Much of this...
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    Ben Johnson- one of the hardest pieces to play,...

    Ben Johnson- one of the hardest pieces to play, ever.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp7VjBtOJ74
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    This is well said. But what is interesting here...

    This is well said. But what is interesting here is that this thread is about the future of progressive rock- and we are discussing someone who is at the forefront of what the future of jazz may...
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    I am also struggling with the comment. How is...

    I am also struggling with the comment. How is Kamasi polarizing? I've been following his career for some time. He makes superb music. It is something that combines elements of free jazz, bop, gospel,...
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    Magma sure as hell won fans at Hellfest, which is...

    Magma sure as hell won fans at Hellfest, which is mainly heavy metal.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOM-l1GBUSY
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    I also agree. I think The Epic is one of the best...

    I also agree. I think The Epic is one of the best release of the past decade. It excites me no end. I am with those who cannot stand Kanye because of his personality. That is a deal killer for me. I...
  45. Thread: Anna Meredith

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    Also had not heard of her, but also exploring....

    Also had not heard of her, but also exploring. Loving what I am hearing.

    ETA: I just listened to all of "Five Telegrams." Wow! Just wow!
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    I'm 66. I have rarely in the past 15 years found...

    I'm 66. I have rarely in the past 15 years found new music that absolutely excites me, not like when I was younger. This board becomes important for that reason: I had not heard of Anna Meredith, but...
  47. Thread: Magma Zess

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    Umm yes.... ETA: The entire live version from...

    Umm yes....

    ETA: The entire live version from last week is up, though I doubt it will be there long. And let me say- wow!!!! Just wow!!!
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    yodelgoat- where in Sedona? I have family in...

    yodelgoat- where in Sedona? I have family in Flagstaff and visit the area regularly so must visit any place willing to put on thatt music. I love Sedona. Sorry to go OT here.
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    Really, wrong question. Let me reframe it: Will...

    Really, wrong question. Let me reframe it: Will we ever see an epic return of Rock into popular culture as significant as the music was to it's former glory days?
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    Schplonk!

    Schplonk!
  51. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I'd love some new music. Really new. And a lot of...

    I'd love some new music. Really new. And a lot of the band are no longer spring chickens. Vander is 70, Stella is heading there, Zab is almost 56, Herve has a kid who is probably in college, Bubu has...
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    This was posted by somebody, but no one related...

    This was posted by somebody, but no one related to the band or its label. In other words, it's an unapproved upload.
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    Oh, for pete's sake, the entire record is posted...

    Oh, for pete's sake, the entire record is posted on YouTube. I am not sure how to report it, but perhaps Steve F can do so. It is only just out!
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    Damn. When I first saw Magma in 1999, I was in...

    Damn. When I first saw Magma in 1999, I was in awe of Kohntarkosz, but seeing MDK live was earth shattering. No one could sing that hard and that fast for that long. It was only Antoine, Zab and...
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    Slacker. :-) My older kids are 39 and they...

    Slacker. :-)

    My older kids are 39 and they have heard their entire life as well. I began listening to Magma in 1976...
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    Buy it. Worth having. Play it regularly.

    Buy it. Worth having. Play it regularly.
  57. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I took my son to one Magma show- he owed me,...

    I took my son to one Magma show- he owed me, since I took him to see Offspring and Living End. He was impressed, but had heard their music since he was born- and he is 34 now...
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    I also have this recording, also on cassette. |)...

    I also have this recording, also on cassette. |) And BTW, you can find the HOB show on youtube, easily enough. Some of it has disappeared over time, but still. ...
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    Sound quality ain't great. I am a completist, for...

    Sound quality ain't great. I am a completist, for sure. But I do not often play this one, as better versions exist. But KMX-B12, that is never bad.
  60. Thread: Magma Zess

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    I just received my copy and have played it 5 or 6...

    I just received my copy and have played it 5 or 6 times in the last 2 days. It is a very different working of the composition, far more liquid and flowing and resonant. It uses odd meters and seems...
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