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    That was just someone's speculation. Henry

    That was just someone's speculation.

    Henry
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    Yes:...

    Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reel-to-reel_audio_tape_recording#Current_manufacturers

    Henry
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    I rarely listen to live versions of "Roundabout"....

    I rarely listen to live versions of "Roundabout". Haven't we heard it enough? I've seen both bands live and much more enjoyed other songs they played. But, OK, will do...

    Starting with Yes Live...
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    And that's why you can't hear the special depth,...

    And that's why you can't hear the special depth, separation and warmth of vinyl that others can. You don't believe enough.

    Henry
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    That, and the fantasist's belief that vinyl has...

    That, and the fantasist's belief that vinyl has magical properties.

    Henry
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    :up Henry

    :up

    Henry
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    And the "real" instruments had designs largely...

    And the "real" instruments had designs largely driven by a need for amplification before the invention of the microphone and speaker.

    Henry
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    Yes, being sacked at the end of the tour. Henry

    Yes, being sacked at the end of the tour.

    Henry
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    I love Gong. This looks like a great set. I...

    I love Gong. This looks like a great set. I bemoan the tendency these day for every band to release a c. £100 box set including a lot of material we all already have rather than just releasing any...
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    I find this an odd approach to life. Henry

    I find this an odd approach to life.

    Henry
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    Best Yes tour I saw was Masterworks, but I've...

    Best Yes tour I saw was Masterworks, but I've only been seeing them since the Union tour. That said, I've enjoyed myself every time I've seen Yes, ARW, Anderson, Howe, White, Squire, Downes, Bruford,...
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    Damnit! Yes, you do... Henry

    Damnit! Yes, you do...

    Henry
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    Well, actually... they have expanded the excerpt...

    Well, actually... they have expanded the excerpt in recent years, so it's "Leaves of Green" plus a little more...

    Henry
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    Any author worth his salt will write for their...

    Any author worth his salt will write for their audience, which will clearly be different for a journal paper and a book.

    Henry
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    The whole point of the reimagining is to see if a...

    The whole point of the reimagining is to see if a song based around an electronic nature can also work in an orchestral format. I love it.

    Henry
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    Trevor Horn tour

    Trevor Horn's tour in support of his Reimagines the Eighties album finished last night. Here's my review of the second night...

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    On the second date of their tour, this expanded Trevor Horn...
  17. I think they've fallen out, then got along for...

    I think they've fallen out, then got along for periods, then fallen out again. With Anderson and Howe, they have a big fall out at the end of 1979. Get back together for ABWH, but that doesn't last...
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    It can take a while to turn these things into...

    It can take a while to turn these things into publications. A year isn't that long! (I've supervised many Master's theses.) I look forward to seeing the final product.

    Henry
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    Box and book ordered! Henry

    Box and book ordered!

    Henry
  20. Good! (Although how can a limited edition LP be...

    Good! (Although how can a limited edition LP be back in stock?)

    Henry
  21. That's just regurgitating a Billboard article. I...

    That's just regurgitating a Billboard article. I recommend reading the original instead: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8525599/yes-live-roundabout

    The Billboard article does have Wakeman...
  22. I don't, no. One press release said, "The...

    I don't, no.

    One press release said, "The worldwide commercial release date of Anderson's new album 1000 Hands will be announced later this summer." That might mean it will get a wider release in...
  23. I've not read that, and your memory is... amusing...

    I've not read that, and your memory is... amusing at times.

    Howe has voiced unhappiness with the album. He didn't like the orchestra. He's even mooted released a non-orchestral version. He didn't...
  24. Wakeman reportedly said at a live gig recently...

    Wakeman reportedly said at a live gig recently that ARW would be announcing new dates soon, so it appeared things were shifting. This new Anderson interview stands in contrast to that.

    Henry
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    Many thanks again for all the suggestions. Am...

    Many thanks again for all the suggestions. Am enjoying working through them.

    Henry
  26. The Ladder and Magnification were done...

    The Ladder and Magnification were done collaboratively. Your description there better fits ABWH, I think.



    Howe has been very positive about the Keys to Ascension 2 studio material and about...
  27. I am glad to live in a world where I can hear...

    I am glad to live in a world where I can hear "Makes Me Happy" and Heaven & Earth and "Activate"/"First Born Leaders"/"WDMCF" etc. and "Opus No. 1 (Hopefulness)"/"Opus No. 2 (Joyfulness)"/"Opus No. 3...
  28. I like that song, but it's only one side of what...

    I like that song, but it's only one side of what Anderson is doing these days. It's not typical of 1000 Hands and we've also had the four instrumental long-form pieces on YouTube.

    Henry
  29. I'm sure Howe and Squire have their own flaws --...

    I'm sure Howe and Squire have their own flaws -- I'm not saying they're the "good guys" in this divorce -- but I can't think of any instances where they've shown this particular character trait.
    ...
  30. Howe has talked about the material Anderson...

    Howe has talked about the material Anderson offered in 2008. Basically, he and the others weren't into it. Anderson has a history of exaggerating downwards the communication he's had from the others,...
  31. Bridges very burnt there, I believe. Henry

    Bridges very burnt there, I believe.

    Henry
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    He didn't fear for his life, but he was upset...

    He didn't fear for his life, but he was upset about the criticism he received for playing in Cuba. But he's announced his retirement from touring a couple of times since then as well. It never sticks...
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    A recent article quotes John Wetton saying that...

    A recent article quotes John Wetton saying that progressive rock “took the ’50s blues influences from the American Deep South and fused it to the classical music of the European composers.” The...
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    The true spirit of the original progressive rock...

    The true spirit of the original progressive rock era involved taking lots of drugs, protesting against the Vietnam War, and thinking women were best as groupies after the show rather than performing...
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    The likes of Yes and Genesis are indeed the...

    The likes of Yes and Genesis are indeed the lowest common denominator and most popular of the style. You say that as if it's an insult. It's not.

    My point is that we all agree they are prog, ergo...
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    Because there are vastly more Genesis and Crimson...

    Because there are vastly more Genesis and Crimson fans than there are Art Zoyd or Henry Cow fans.

    Henry
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    It's a UK magazine, published in the UK, with an...

    It's a UK magazine, published in the UK, with an editorial team in the UK, most easily available in the UK, and thus presumably with a largely UK readership. It doesn't seem terribly surprising that...
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    No, as in composing input, which is more...

    No, as in composing input, which is more exciting. It seems. It's not that clear yet...

    Henry
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    ^ I am very happy to be wrong. (Although I'd...

    ^ I am very happy to be wrong.

    (Although I'd like something a bit more concrete than a report that Rick said something at a show.)

    Henry
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    Lots to love in Howe's solo catalogue. His...

    Lots to love in Howe's solo catalogue. His earliest albums are diverse in style, but in recent years, he's very much believed in each album having a clear theme. Time, the "classical" album, is...
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    So I got a newsletter update from Chlöe Herington...

    So I got a newsletter update from Chlöe Herington today, about her work and her band, VÄLVĒ. I enjoy her work. VÄLVĒ's "Can I Tell You About the Lifecycle of Aphids?" is my kind of jam:...
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    This is clearly not true. It seems you are...

    This is clearly not true. It seems you are fighting old battles.

    Henry
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    You are sore that people don't recognise your...

    You are sore that people don't recognise your broader definition of prog than bands like Genesis and Yes, but you're not arguing that Genesis and Yes are not prog, are you? Ergo, while I acknowledge...
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    I think you're being a bit silly there. There is...

    I think you're being a bit silly there. There is variation in what people mean by "prog", but there is also lots of agreement. Nearly everyone agrees that prog includes Genesis and Yes!



    Well,...
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    I mostly agree, but there are works that...

    I mostly agree, but there are works that weren't/aren't as popular, but which have had lasting impact. Someone like Jeff Buckley, for example. And other acts that were huge, but haven't had the same...
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    I'm in the UK. The best-selling studio albums...

    I'm in the UK. The best-selling studio albums (not compilations) of all time, of every genre, in the UK include Sgt Pepper at #1, Dark Side of the Moon at #4, Tubular Bells at #36 and Phil Collins'...
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    It's not about the term being charged with...

    It's not about the term being charged with negative connotations. It's about the term being irrelevant. It's becoming like talking about dithyramb or renku.

    Henry
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    I apologise if I expressed myself poorly. I don't...

    I apologise if I expressed myself poorly. I don't believe prog is something that happened only in 1974. That was a rhetorical flourish.

    There are people making prog music today. I am surrounded by...
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    That music you describe, "Taking the backbeat...

    That music you describe, "Taking the backbeat style of rhythm that set Rock and Roll apart as a separate musical genre in the 50s and blending it with Classical, Jazz and Folk", did indeed involve...
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    There are times when we should push language to...

    There are times when we should push language to mean what we want, and times where we should accept how language is used. If most people use the term "prog" to mean something, then there are times...
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    I take your point, but I think the comparison...

    I take your point, but I think the comparison falls down because prog is a different level to jazz. You need to compare rock to jazz, or progressive rock to hard bop, or something.

    I agree that...
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    ^ This. There will always be music that blends...

    ^ This.

    There will always be music that blends genres, that is rooted in the popular but experiments and brings in other influences. Sometimes some of it will be commercially successful. But the...
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    I do not expect an ARW return any time soon, if...

    I do not expect an ARW return any time soon, if indeed ever.

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    Well, that obviously wins, because Lego. Thanks,...

    Well, that obviously wins, because Lego. Thanks, all. Lots I need to go away and listen to in this thread.

    Henry
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    Interesting. Quite disturbing and aggressive, but...

    Interesting. Quite disturbing and aggressive, but it pulls you in. Thanks.

    Henry
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    ^ Thanks, people. The Caroline Shaw is just...

    ^ Thanks, people.

    The Caroline Shaw is just the sort of thing I meant. I enjoyed the Daugherty (in particular), Higdon and Gandolfi, but they are more orchestral/symphonic than I was looking for....
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    ^ Agreed that Uncut has good CDs and Prog has...

    ^ Agreed that Uncut has good CDs and Prog has poor letters.

    Henry
  58. Genres are more often defined in terms of...

    Genres are more often defined in terms of networks of collaboration and influence than in having a homogeneous musical style. Soft Machine and Caravan are both off-shoots of The Wilde Flowers, even...
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    In my opinion... 1. Yeah, OK, it's not cheap....

    In my opinion...

    1. Yeah, OK, it's not cheap. But it's about the same as similar magazines.
    2. I learn something new from most issues. I don't read everything in the magazine. I skim some...
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    Experimental new classical - advice wanted

    I've been enjoying a number of contemporary classical pieces lately, but I'm not familiar enough with this oeuvre to know where I should go next, but I'm liking stuff like David Lang (YouTube below),...
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