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  1. The bonus disc on this is a little disappointing....

    The bonus disc on this is a little disappointing. Not in terms of quality, but in that the previous 50th Anniversary editions all had complete shows for the bonus.
  2. I saw last night's show in DC and have to echo...

    I saw last night's show in DC and have to echo the comments of others in saying how good it was. I haven't really been on that musical wavelength lately (I've been more of a Deadhead recently) and so...
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    Listening to all four released tracks...

    Listening to all four released tracks back-to-back, I'm coming around to it.
  4. I'm pretty much good with just Six Wives and...

    I'm pretty much good with just Six Wives and Criminal Record.
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    I haven't been blown away by the three released...

    I haven't been blown away by the three released songs, but I also have to say that I'll need some time with the entire album as a whole to really digest it.
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    This is an evolution of what Trevor did on Talk,...

    This is an evolution of what Trevor did on Talk, and I could absolutely hear Anderson singing on it. Not sure I hear as much room for Wakeman, though.
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    I hear the Gong connection, too. It's a nice...

    I hear the Gong connection, too.

    It's a nice track, but it doesn't wow me.
  8. HYF is where Rush started emphasizing lyrics over...

    HYF is where Rush started emphasizing lyrics over music, and that wasn't a welcome development for me.
  9. I recall Howe being unimpressive on the Union...

    I recall Howe being unimpressive on the Union tour, but he steadily improved and came back to life on the Yes tours from 1997-2004. By the tour for The Ladder, he was the highlight of the show, I...
  10. The Dolls were enormously influential on '80s...

    The Dolls were enormously influential on '80s glam metal. That's about all I got.
  11. Thread: Whitesnake

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    In Gillan's case, I believe he was already...

    In Gillan's case, I believe he was already negotiating on the Purple reunion before he joined Sabbath. He's said he saw it as something to do while he waited for the Purple negotiations to finish....
  12. I have this boxed set. It's one of their better...

    I have this boxed set. It's one of their better ones, and I hopped on the pre-sale rather than take any chances. 6/10/73 has long been considered one of their premier shows, and the other shows in...
  13. I've gotten the impression that Squire didn't...

    I've gotten the impression that Squire didn't have much musical drive after Drama. The substance abuse may have been more effect than cause of his later problems.
  14. He studied piano performance. I don't know that...

    He studied piano performance. I don't know that he studied composition.



    That was for the second album, which ultimately became Union. Anderson and Wakeman were late to the pre-production...
  15. Back when it was newer, I found that cutting out...

    Back when it was newer, I found that cutting out "Quartet" and "Teakbois" made ABWH a nice album of about 45 minutes or so. I don't really care much for "Order of the Universe", but it least it...
  16. My sense is that a lot of the time they spent in...

    My sense is that a lot of the time they spent in the studio in the early '70s arguing and whatnot was how to connect the various bits of music they'd come up with. In songwriting, it's actually not...
  17. The '80s CD release still sounds amazing. I'll...

    The '80s CD release still sounds amazing. I'll stick with that.
  18. The first half of ABWH is strong. The second half...

    The first half of ABWH is strong. The second half is weak.

    Beyond that, this album is where I first noticed the longer pieces getting more disjointed. "Brother of Mine" is all good parts, but it...
  19. It may also be that Howe doesn't want to do as...

    It may also be that Howe doesn't want to do as lengthy a tour as he used to.
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    I like that Roger didn't just do a straight...

    I like that Roger didn't just do a straight remake. I don't like how he replaces an amazing sax solo with an uninspired bit of poetry slam.

    It needed some kind of musical break in the middle. Too...
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    The vinyl smoothed it up, whereas the original CD...

    The vinyl smoothed it up, whereas the original CD version simply revealed what was actually on the master tape. A lot of harsh upper-mids.

    Steven Wilson's mix is probably my favorite CD version,...
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    I'll have to break out Snow. I haven't listened...

    I'll have to break out Snow. I haven't listened to it in many years.

    For me, it took on a Spinal Tap dimension, but I do appreciate the ambition.
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    People pining away for the Howe/Anderson writing...

    People pining away for the Howe/Anderson writing team are talking about something that reached its apex in 1974 and began to slowly erode as each evolved in a different direction. It was already...
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    I probably had the deleted comment. Sorry for...

    I probably had the deleted comment. Sorry for that if I stepped over any lines.

    Neal's a talented dude. Looking back, I think he's always been a more literal, straightforward lyricist, even back...
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    I believe he's also admitted that his songwriting...

    I believe he's also admitted that his songwriting well basically ran dry by the late '70s. It's a shame, because he wrote many of their most interesting songs in the early days.
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    I'm think more a grotesque mash-up of Gabriel-era...

    I'm think more a grotesque mash-up of Gabriel-era Genesis and one of those megachurches in someplace like Houston or Dallas. Throw in some Spinal Tap with the chemical fog and whatnot.

    The guy's...
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    Not to mention that they had three lead singers...

    Not to mention that they had three lead singers and four songwriters in the band. It was just a ridiculous collection of talent.

    After Chicago VII, they made a conscious effort to be more...
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    Yeah, underrated isn't correct, but unheralded...

    Yeah, underrated isn't correct, but unheralded certainly is. Thanks to Chicago's big pop hits, no one in the band got the individual credit they deserved, especially Kath.
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    Oh my goodness, Ed. I'm so sorry to hear that....

    Oh my goodness, Ed. I'm so sorry to hear that. RIP.

    I have fond memories of when we'd get together with Mike for some listening parties up in Maryland, and we'd inevitably some away with some...
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    There's quite a range of opinions about this...

    There's quite a range of opinions about this album, for sure.

    I've surprised myself by how much I'm enjoying the album. Without ranking the catalog, for me it has the spirit of '70s classic Yes...
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    People can hear things differently. I agree with...

    People can hear things differently. I agree with you about "Lightning Strikes", but the rest of The Ladder sounds like '70s meets '80s. An album sounding like Talk wouldn't have been made in the...
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    I consider Talk to be the last "contemporary" Yes...

    I consider Talk to be the last "contemporary" Yes album before they became a nostalgia act. To me it sounds very much of the early '90s. It was Trevor Rabin doing Big Rock, and the main problem I...
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    Anderson has more of the mindset of a folk...

    Anderson has more of the mindset of a folk singer, now. In the '70s, his voice was effectively another one of the instruments in Yes, but now I think he sees the music as a backdrop for his lyrics.
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    He's been going that direction since Tormato. For...

    He's been going that direction since Tormato. For whatever reason, he lost some of his gift for those timeless melodies and clever wordplay from the classic Yes era. I'm not at all confident that an...
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    This is a good answer. For a general rock...

    This is a good answer. For a general rock listener, this would probably be their entire Yes collection--maybe add in GFTO. Tales and Relayer are going to be a bridge too far for a LOT of people.
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    The title track is clicking in place for me, now....

    The title track is clicking in place for me, now. A very nice piece of work.

    As for the production, I'm listening on my studio monitors as I write this.

    I don't find the mix terrible (like...
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    I've listened to the album in bits and pieces on...

    I've listened to the album in bits and pieces on YouTube while running errands today. First impressions:

    --This feels and sounds much more like a real Yes album than any of the other post-JA...
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    He was also a member of the first version of...

    He was also a member of the first version of Peter Banks' band, Empire. RIP.
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    The band ran out of time, I believe. The deadline...

    The band ran out of time, I believe. The deadline for the album was quickly approaching by the time Horn and Downes showed up. Howe/Squire/White had been dinking around the studio as a trio for a...
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    I'm sorry I missed the show at Capital One Hall....

    I'm sorry I missed the show at Capital One Hall. I was sick that night or I probably would've gone. I hope that Jon and the Band Geeks keep doing this for a while and come back this way.
  41. Here's the proof-of-concept for the Carl...

    Here's the proof-of-concept for the Carl Palmer/ELP 100th Anniversary Return Tour.

    https://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/mzl.imxavlol.320x480-75.jpg
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    That interviewer was trying to be really...

    That interviewer was trying to be really provocative. Steve has said (paraphrasing) that they've reconciled personally, but that he doesn't see them as being able to work together anymore. History...
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    Steve doesn't sound like someone who'd be fond of...

    Steve doesn't sound like someone who'd be fond of taking big commercial risks, so I can him being more careful with insurance than perhaps others who are regularly busy touring the continent.

    This...
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    What I meant was that, at the core of classic...

    What I meant was that, at the core of classic Yes, are very sweeping, relatively simple melodies. Those are surrounded by lots of complex and sophisticated musical parts in Yes, but those same...
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    Yes, exactly! I couldn't put my finger on it, but...

    Yes, exactly! I couldn't put my finger on it, but that is a good description.

    The Squire-ish bouncy bass line is all there and much appreciated, but everything else seems kind of random and...
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    The Wikipedia entry accords mostly with what I'd...

    The Wikipedia entry accords mostly with what I'd read (which was perhaps not entirely accurate), differing mainly in that the album was released before Yes broke up. I'm assuming Atlantic wanted more...
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    The version of the story I've read is: --Yes...

    The version of the story I've read is:

    --Yes had planned to do a "Yessongs II" 3-LP live release for a while.

    --During a touring break in 1979, Squire did "test mixes" for Yessongs II that...
  48. Thread: UK and Asia

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    The first Asia album is a logical offshoot of...

    The first Asia album is a logical offshoot of both UK and Drama. I like it to this day and think it has a lot to offer. Asia went off the rails after that.

    It's not at all unusual for musicians to...
  49. Your English is perfectly fine here, and I...

    Your English is perfectly fine here, and I completely agree.

    Waters seems to have a highly selective memory about the old days. The writing combination in Floyd started falling apart after Wish...
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    The initial 2008-09 "In the Present" touring...

    The initial 2008-09 "In the Present" touring cycle was fresh and interesting, to my ears. The tempos were up again, a whole bunch of rarely played songs were back, and the general vibe seemed to be...
  51. It'd be interesting if Jon A. would revisit this...

    It'd be interesting if Jon A. would revisit this setlist with the Band Geeks. They could undoubtedly perform the whole thing well enough to make even Grumpy Old Rick smile a little bit.

    Never...
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    So sad.

    So sad.
  53. Cobo Hall '74 was the last time the complete...

    Cobo Hall '74 was the last time the complete Tales suite was ever played, and it was great based on the audience recording. Rick just didn't like the complete thing very much, so he's always going to...
  54. This album is an improvement over the first one....

    This album is an improvement over the first one. Billy's "Squire-ish" songwriting style is on full display here. It's an aspect of the Yes world that could have been more present on the Quest, so...
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    Something that needs saying: amidst all the...

    Something that needs saying: amidst all the lineup changes, drama queening, and petty grievances that characterize so much of the history of Yes, Alan White was the quiet presence who just kept...
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    RIP to a legend.

    RIP to a legend.
  57. Thread: Whitesnake

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    Ready an' Willing is their masterpiece, in my...

    Ready an' Willing is their masterpiece, in my opinion. Very different band and album from the 1987 one, though.
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    For Alan, I imagine it's as much or more about...

    For Alan, I imagine it's as much or more about the rigors of travel than it is the playing of the gigs. He'd have to travel to Europe and then in a bus around the UK to do this tour. I'm 20 years...
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    LaTorre definitely got QR back on track as a...

    LaTorre definitely got QR back on track as a progressive-leaning hard rock band, rather than whatever it is they'd become during the later Tate years.

    What I've read is that Tate wasn't that into...
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    That was my era of Batman as a kid -- early - mid...

    That was my era of Batman as a kid -- early - mid '70s. Loved the artwork. RIP.
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