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    oh, man. :beer

    oh, man. :beer
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    According to Kaukonen, everybody knew Spence and...

    According to Kaukonen, everybody knew Spence and had the odd dealings with him. He was ADHD and "got around", as they say - the younger rendition of a Neal Cassady. I asked Kaukonen back then and he...
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    ^ According to Kaukonen, at least when I...

    ^ According to Kaukonen, at least when I interviewed him more than a quarter of a century ago, the thing about Grace S. was that she presented younger guys with the sexual mentality of an...
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    `^ Never forget! Without question that day...

    `^

    Never forget!

    Without question that day in March of 2009 when I was discussing back and forth with one of my heroes of contemporary "progressive" music, Steve Gore of the Rascal Reporters -...
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    Sticky: :( If there were a couple of italian...

    :(

    If there were a couple of italian progressive albums that absolutely didn't need or warrant a rerecording or "refinement", the two original PdP studio records were those.
  6. Sticky: Yes. But there's considerably less of it with...

    Yes. But there's considerably less of it with acts like Magdalena, Lisker and Sakre. And there's a substantial difference between melodic folk-rock groups like Itziar and Enbor and the "spiritual"...
  7. Sticky: Hugues support for this one! :up

    Hugues support for this one! :up
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    ^ Hell, Yeah!! :beer :up :ipa

    ^ Hell, Yeah!! :beer :up :ipa
  9. Believe it or not, but there are loads of folks...

    Believe it or not, but there are loads of folks even in here who wouldn't quite agree. And perhaps the band wouldn't either. Doesn't matter, though - they're a damn fine and majestically powerful...
  10. Sticky: One of the great Basque folk-progressive albums,...

    One of the great Basque folk-progressive albums, along with selected ones by Itziar, Itoiz, Enbor and Errobi. Of course, all Basque bands from the 70s basically cultivated some level of "folk"...
  11. It's a good read. Scholarly written, as in not...

    It's a good read. Scholarly written, as in not only its means of text and theory but its very intention - but I for one am glad that there's a "serious" work to serve as reference for one of the most...
  12. ^ Songs Between Cities & Waterholes, right? The...

    ^ Songs Between Cities & Waterholes, right? The one with Sten Sandell and Nicklas Billström from Kultivator? A really good one, I particularly love Sandell's contribution here. It should have been a...
  13. ^ Strangely enough, with the exception of...

    ^ Strangely enough, with the exception of Kultivator and Jonsson's very own Songs from Cities of Decay, the finest things to come out of the whole Bauta composit were their latest releases; Ur Kaos'...
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    I have a lot of respect for her. From what I...

    I have a lot of respect for her. From what I understand, she was an ace music student at a very young age and could have accepted offers from far more lucrative career-makers than the Zoyds, yet she...
  15. Thx so much for the heads up here! I've got...

    Thx so much for the heads up here!

    I've got all of what he's done himself - and the entire Bauta roster except for (I think) two titles. One of my fave artists and domains in Scandinavian music.
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    But I kinda appreciate that in a progressive...

    But I kinda appreciate that in a progressive rock'n'roll band. I think old "prog" bands shuld have done much more of this, although truth be told that's what it was always all about in the first...
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    Hathor.

    Hathor.
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    Sticky: Wow, I hope this'll turn out to be a new studio...

    Wow, I hope this'll turn out to be a new studio recording. Their last one (the Valdapozzo release from 15! years ago) was intriguing, if not exactly what I'd call very "good".



    Fine news as...
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    :( Have to admit to getting tired when...

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    Have to admit to getting tired when listening to PoiL, Ni, Le Grand Sbam myself, but I tend to think that this has something to do with my age. Today I listen to Etron Fou with the same...
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    One of my fave countries for progressive rock...

    One of my fave countries for progressive rock music.

    The "classic/symph" bands were hit and miss, perhaps - but I have a soft spot for Ange (first bulk of albums), Carpe Diem, Atoll (L'Araignée...
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    ^ Island's Pictures. It's extraordinary...

    ^ Island's Pictures.

    It's extraordinary because it's a very rare example of a theoretically educated music composer (Peter Scherer) who does NOT resort to the overt avant-garde in rock but rather...
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    None, but I don't think the gesture of "being...

    None, but I don't think the gesture of "being progressive" is their core agenda. Is this so with IQ or Neal Morse? Too bad about the results, then.

    The venture of "retro" presented an artistic...
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    Pulled this one out again today for the first...

    Pulled this one out again today for the first time in a while. Dunno which CD-issue I've got, but it's definitely "unofficial" - although sound is Ok.

    I have to say that it's not quite as strong...
  24. Both true. While I grew up in a middle...

    Both true.

    While I grew up in a middle middle-class household (to which my father had done the 'klassereise' - a specific turn of social mobility in which you consciously break with your own...
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    Bring toddler to the Weasel for a baptism of...

    Bring toddler to the Weasel for a baptism of fire! :yell
  26. Yes and no. British aristocracy makes out the...

    Yes and no. British aristocracy makes out the primary upper class in accordance with a traditional peerage system, with the so-called landed gentry (as opposed to the actual nobility) dominant in...
  27. :doh

    :doh
  28. ^ It's perfectly fair to dislike a piece of music...

    ^ It's perfectly fair to dislike a piece of music on the basis of emotional estrangement. But this work was supposed to be cold, hostile, alien and "mechanical/robotical" - that's the very reason why...
  29. Agree 100%! They chose Hungary for all the...

    Agree 100%! They chose Hungary for all the right/wrong reasons, namely that infamous reduction on tax expenses for every aspect involved in producing a motion picture. All the more directors are...
  30. ^ Oh, it's by no means a 'masterwork' of any...

    ^ Oh, it's by no means a 'masterwork' of any sort. It's not like The Exorcist where you essentially go back and realize how it really isn't about the detail as well as the message - but that the...
  31. Please explain why "Toccata" sucks (iyo). ...

    Please explain why "Toccata" sucks (iyo).

    Don't you appreciate Ginastera's original piece? As far as I can tell, this was one of those extremely rare instances where a composer actually endorsed a...
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    Bought it some two weeks back and brought with me...

    Bought it some two weeks back and brought with me the book to read on a couple of the local pubs that Friday and Saturday. All in all I had three folks come over to comment on the "[…] interesting...
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    I just happened to steep into the whole Maelstrom...

    I just happened to steep into the whole Maelstrom release a couple of weeks back - all 57 1/2 minutes of it - and I honestly have to say that this is some of the best modern heavy jazz-rock I heard....
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    ^ That was A Piedi Nudi's debut, and patchier...

    ^ That was A Piedi Nudi's debut, and patchier than the two to come (Creazione and Eclissi). I personally think the parallel to IBdB was abit far-fetched, but I believe it was due to them being the...
  35. ^ Part two (2nd. impression) of "Karn Evil 9" is...

    ^ Part two (2nd. impression) of "Karn Evil 9" is the finest thing any of the three ever accomplished, IMHO. I'm still amazed at how brilliant it is when I listen to it today, having heard it a few...
  36. B.S.S. remains my fave ELP album, although I...

    B.S.S. remains my fave ELP album, although I still have a soft spot for the debut (and find both Tarkus and Exhibition somewhat dull). I think the potpourri-idea Works a bit better here than on...
  37. Neither do most participants in this thread who...

    Neither do most participants in this thread who dislike the band/song.
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    From where does the logic stem that something...

    From where does the logic stem that something "odd" can't be a "masterpiece"? If "oddness" equals expressive and/or conceptual originality, then this is often a significant factor in achieving a...
  39. Yes, yup, yeah, word and (not least) uhuh. The...

    Yes, yup, yeah, word and (not least) uhuh.

    The 'satyrical farce' round-offs (and sometimes windups) were also invested with interactive functions of audience mentality; they were to lend a bridge...
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    One of their most musically interesting tracks.



    In what way does it "sound like" that? Is it badly made, given its spoofy intention? Is the intrumentation somehow wrong? From what perspective...
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    The title track drags on a bit (IMHO), but the...

    The title track drags on a bit (IMHO), but the first four tunes are very, very good.

    There are Swiss bands I prefer (Island, Debile Menthol, L'Ensemble Rayé, Kedama and An Invisible World...
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    ^ Hugues, if you add rock'n'roll drums'n'bass to...

    ^ Hugues, if you add rock'n'roll drums'n'bass to a Wiener-waltz played on a Hammond organ, this becomes sympho prog. It's the very definition. The reason why it's not "taken seriously" by either...
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    I always thought it was symph wiener or viener,...

    I always thought it was symph wiener or viener, like the sausage.


    Damn.
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    This doesn't distract from the main point;...

    This doesn't distract from the main point; instrumental (vocal-less) progressive rock is supposedly something "exotic" and different from the "usual" recipé, which is apparently to have a given set...
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    Apparently they haven't - I was mistaken. It's Au...

    Apparently they haven't - I was mistaken. It's Au Zulo I was thinking of.




    I'm getting senile and I never liked that.
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    Enduring the American Dream remains their single...

    Enduring the American Dream remains their single most overtly farout release, as it basically captures all of their assets in one giant flowing stew; the bizarre whims (on/off-vacuum-cleaner manual...
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    Check out previous pages of the thread. Lotsa...

    Check out previous pages of the thread. Lotsa info there. Lotsa lotsa.
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    Way to go! :ipa

    Way to go! :ipa
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    Although fatal aneurysms are mostly painless and...

    Although fatal aneurysms are mostly painless and usually cause instant shutdown, it's a pretty sad way to leave IMO. I experienced a carotid artery dissection and consequently had an ischemic stroke...
  50. ^ Common Daze was issued by the somewhat ad-hoc...

    ^ Common Daze was issued by the somewhat ad-hoc label of local prog zine 'ProgNetik' (yeah I know; really original name) - as far as I'm aware of, their only official release. I also believe those...
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    Your gf bought the C-A vinyl? Or did you mean her...

    Your gf bought the C-A vinyl? Or did you mean her recordplayer?

    A former wife of mine used to love C-A, btw - dunno what she listens to these days. Great News about the upcoming Cunei CD, of...
  52. Yup, Asia threads only belong in the main forum...

    Yup, Asia threads only belong in the main forum if they have a serious tone to them.

    Also, if Culture Club had featured a kazoo-solo by Geoff Downes this would have warranted inclusion on the main...
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    This is yet another point, as the interviewer...

    This is yet another point, as the interviewer here obviously isn't even aware - or doesn't quite acknowledge - that a significant percentage of progressive artists throughout the years have expressed...
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    Reactions towards so-called 'peculiar' voices...

    Reactions towards so-called 'peculiar' voices often correspond with reactions towards 'peculiarities' in music as such. It's essentially the dynamic of the "comfort zone" habitus syndrome, seeing as...
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    It certainly produces some fabulous singers and...

    It certainly produces some fabulous singers and lyrics, and it's often an emphasized component. BUT! It's the one 'instrument' by which errors are easiest exposed to the listener, basically because...
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    No. Dondaï Mammataï Kobaï. It's so inherently...

    No. Dondaï Mammataï Kobaï. It's so inherently obvious that you simply didn't think of it instantly.
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    Peter Michael Hamel's small ensemble, yes....

    Peter Michael Hamel's small ensemble, yes. They're huge in prog circles - practically enormous. It's the same genre as that first Asia record.

    FWIW, I always found Einstieg a more rewarding listen...
  58. Says the guy with the 'nazicommunist' tantrum....

    Says the guy with the 'nazicommunist' tantrum. Oh, the absolutely brilliant irony of it all.
  59. ^ There's a rather obvious and almost grotesque...

    ^ There's a rather obvious and almost grotesque contrast between the vocal antics of the singer and those outbursts of farty Rhodes-escapades in, say, a song like "Wounded". It becomes a telling...
  60. There are some nice melodic ideas and...

    There are some nice melodic ideas and .dispositions and a few interesting arrangements at play here, but those horrible vocals and the bizarre tendency to tie the whole deal down to "large arena...
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